Throwdowns > Closed

Serial Dex said 06/18, 01:15 AM
* Denotes a move

#1 - Brad Richards

#2 - Tomas Vokoun *

#3 - Ilya Bryzgalov *

I think you have to put these guys ahead of Bieksa. Both these goalies are game changers. Vokoun is one of the most underrated goalies in the league. Bryzgalov has turned the hapless Coyotes into a threat on any given night. Bieksa is barely a first pairing defender. He had a great post season, but that doesn't make up for a marginal career.

#4 - Kevin Bieksa *

#5 - Christian Ehrhoff *

#6 - Joni Pitkanen

#7 - Andrei Markov

#8 - Brooks Laich

#9 - Eric Brewer

#10 - Tomas Kaberle

#11 - Villie Leino

#12 - Simon Gagne *

#13 - James Wisniewski

#14 - Tomas Fleischmann

#15 - Alex Tanguay

#16 - Jussi Jokinen

#17 - Jason Arnott

#18 - Erik Cole

#19 - Joel Ward

#20 - Anton Babchuk

#21 - Scottie Upshall

#22 - Chad Larose

#23 - Ian White *

#24 - Sean Bergenheim

#25 - Chris Higgins

#26 - Pascal Dupuis

#27 - Bryan McCabe

#28 - Andy Greene

#29 - Steve Sullivan

#30 - Raffi Torres

Serial Dex said 06/18, 04:35 PM
Ahh "the trap" accusation to deny Bryzgalove his due.

Last year he faced 2125 shots, good for 3rd most in the NHL. He played in fewer games than Lehtonen and Kipper, but faced more shots. He had the same games played as Lundqvist, but had more shots.

He went 36-20 with a .921 save % and posted 7 shutouts. You think he is mediocre? 2 wins off the league lead, tied for 4th in SO and better save % than guys like Miller, Fleury and Kipper (just to name a few).

Vokoun had a .922% and posted 6 shutouts, but still he had more losses than wins.

That's how bad the Panthers were this year. They had injuries, traded away their best players and had no defense to start with. Your argument against him is "he plays in Florida so has no pressure" which I find fairly weak. I doubt he would fade in the spotlight. He'd probably be relieved and happy to play for a better team.

Bieksa had his first good season this year since 2006. Prior to this year he's been a negative player 4 of 6 seasons and 1 of the positive years was simply +1

He's missed 40 games in the last 2 seasons because of injury though. Something other teams will think about

Serial Dex said 06/20, 12:09 AM
Ward was moved up four spots because of his stellar playoff performance this year. He averaged just over a point a game for the Preds. Nashville played a lot of 1-0, 2-1 games and he still managed to get 13 pts in 12 games.

I think he could use the big stage as a stepping stone. He obviously isn't a first line player, but I had to move Gagne up and White down.

Ian White was traded away from the Leafs as collateral damage when they traded all those players to Calgary for Phaneuf. He went on to record a -3 rating in Calgary before they had enough of his garbage and sent him to Carolina. The Hurricanes had enough of his garbage after 39 games and sent him to SJ.

In two years, White played for 4 teams!! You can't seriously have this guy listed as #12 on your wish list.

You have him ahead of Jussi Jokinen, who has averaged 58 pts in the last 2 seasons (a very solid 2nd line scorer), Simon Gagne (who is streaky, but has 66 or more pts in 4 of the last 9 seasons) and Alex Tanguay (who hs 6 seasons over 66 pts).

White is now a journeyman and is not deserving of a top 12 placement in free agent bonanza.