Throwdowns > Closed

rickford5150 said 06/18, 08:20 PM
Oh alright...why not? I've see guys like you before........right next to the ant farm ad in my old Richy Rich comic books!

KB8 or KB24 is for sure in the #2 slot and that's right now and not in 4-5 years when he racks up even more and retires.

Tim Duncan is a great player as I said before but he is NOT, nor should he ever be in MJ and then Kobe's class. Let me tell you why:

Fact: Timmy never had any range outside of 15ft
Fact: He has no left hand shot or dribble and rarely went left because he never PRACTICED it
Fact: He never averaged more than 25 PPG
Fact: More times than not when he went up against Shaq (the other dominant big man of his time) he was outsscored and out played

Look at Kobe:

Most all star MVP's ever and 13 time selection
13 times All NBA
All defense team - 11 times
5 time NBA Champ with 3 MVP's
2 time scoring champion
81 freakin points in a single game
Youngest ever to get 18,19, 20, 21 22, 23, 24, 25,26, &27,000 points
6th all-time scoring and closing quick, will be #2 or #3

The argument is not that Kobe is better than MJ but that Duncan should not be mentioned with those two. It's MJ #1 and Kobe is right there and we all know it!

rickford5150 said 06/19, 12:13 PM
Homeboy y'all gonna have to do better than that! I remember what it was like when I had my first beer, but don't post until your sober bro. Kobe is a lightning rod but if you actually are true to your heart we know KB is a far better player than TD!

Since this is my first time I'm guessing that bold lettering is supposed to make your argument stronger? LOL. Not going to help cause facts are facts and let's not try to change the argument cause a TD rookie is shaking your Sh iitz from the top of the key!

Kobe got a jump start on points because "he came from HS".. That's because he COULD but thanks for making my point.

TD also played with an HOF'er, so did MJ, Bird and Magic. What's your point?

KB could and does play forward. Does TD ever play guard?

Both are 21 and you got the 1st pick? You know the answer

26 total 3 pointers? What is that like 1.8 a year? The good news is he is only a 1,227 away from PF - Cliff Robinson. Puhleese he has no range. Thanks again!

As far as accolades go I just ran out of characters or I could have added another 50!

Bottom line: TD does not belong in the same category as Bryant. Can we just stop the madness or do you like pain?

rickford5150 said 06/20, 12:30 PM
Since this is the close I find it fitting to talk about KB's leadership and ability to "close and kill" vs TD. In this KB is very comparable to MJ.

My opponent defends Duncan but in another current TD he defends Shaq versus Duncan. Does he even believe what he is arguing here?

Clutch NO? GM's and players beg to differ. Truth

Kobe is number #1 all time in game winning shots with 36. 11 more than MJ and 26 more than Duncan - Truth

A GM survey done on "who you would want taking the last shot"? KB "wins by a country mile" every time. (In a general-manager poll this season he earned 79 percent of the vote, his ninth consecutive blowout.) - Truth

Alvin Gentry said "He's the best closer in the history of the game if you ask me," - Truth

Even MJ says KB is the best player on the planet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yiGz3Vgrw&feature=related - Truth

How many times have we seen KB be a leader in the 4th qtr when it counts? He is never afraid to fail (and has) but that's why he succeeds people! Duncan is not even close in closing skills and is passive at times.

Kobe's a polarizing figure and you may not like him, but TD (as great as he is), is NO Kobe Bryant