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Harder transition- Indy to NASCAR or NASCAR to Indy
Outlaw... said 06/20, 11:11 AM
This is a redo, Float had union problems and we had to draw.
Indy to NASCAR is my pick.
In Indy, the cars have enough down force to pull a drainage pipe from the ground, the cars are able to make the turns at a faster pace, as they stick better.
The cars are also much lighter, and easier to maneuver, and the open cockpit of the car gives the driver better visibility than they would have in NASCAR.
We have seen so many successful Indy drivers try their hand in NASCAR and fail. Sam Hornish Jr, Dario Francheti, Patrick Carpentier, etc.
The cars in NASCAR are harder to driver, the only thing that really helps drivers making the transition is the fact that the NASCAR cars can take more of a beating.
Then you throw in the fact that there are 43 cars on the track in NASCAR compared to 33 in Indy, and that NASCAR has more money, and is more popular in America, which leads to the best drivers coming to NASCAR, and having stronger compeition than the Indy drivers are used to.
I don't think either would be an easy transition, but I think the Indy drivers have the tougher road.
greenlemonade102 said 06/20, 11:48 PM
NASCAR to Indy is my pick.
First, Indy tracks are more difficult that NASCAR's. In Indy, road courses is the main track used compared to the oval tracks of NASCAR. With road courses, it is difficult to find the tricks to every turn to make. With NASCAR, the turns with ovals are almost exactly the same, and they go around them more, so it is easier to learn the tricks to the turns for NASCAR.
Indy uses more and newer technology than NASCAR. With Indy, they would need to keep up and learn the technology every year, and they always need to make adjustments. With NASCAR, they use older technology, where there isn't as much changes from year to year.
Indy cars are faster. Faster speeds mean less reaction time. Also with more speed, drivers need to be more precise with accelerating, braking, etc.
Indy has less protection. Even though there are less cars participating in an indy car race, the consequences are higher. If one car touches another, they are done for, where as NASCAR, they are still in the race. And remember less reaction time.
I agree though that neither one would be easy to transition to. But I think NASCAR drivers would have the tougher road.
Outlaw... said 06/21, 07:20 PM
You bring up the tracks, but Indy races on many of the same tracks that are used in NASCAR, and don't act like NASCAR only races on oval tracks. Sonoma and Watkins Glenn are both road courses, and these are all professional drivers, road courses don't bother him.
The "right turn aspect" is blown way out of proportion.
You ever notice how road course ringers all try their hand at the NASCAR road course events, and every road course NASCAR has ever ran has been won by a NASCAR regular?
Indy cars are faster, but there's a reason for that. The cars are much lighter and easier to maneuver, and much better aerodynamically.
The cars in NASCAR are essentially driving a brick 200 miles an hour.
The wider tires used by Indy allows for more grip.
I've never seen an Indy car getting almost sideways every turn. That happens in NASCAR to many drivers every race.
There is less protection in Indy, but both series has highly specialized safety equipment. Indy cars break away in a carsh to absorb impact. The safety argument is meaningless, both series are very safe.
greenlemonade102 said 06/22, 08:10 PM
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Outlaw... said 06/22, 09:53 PM
Disappointed to see the forfeit.
I'll keep this short.
And Indy car is much easier to handle, and maneuver. They are also much better aerodynamically, and handling is rarely an issue in the Indy car series.
The biggest challenge for a NASCAR driver would be the mental aspect of not being able to bump cars around you, eliminating the beating and banging
Neither would be an easy adjustment, but NASCAR to Indy would be the easier road with less time needed to work out the kinks.
greenlemonade102 said 06/23, 10:10 PM
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I disagree as well, but don't know enough about racing to take it. All I know is I don't know of any NASCAR drivers who would dare make the switch to Indy.
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The money in NASCAR is better, plus it's more popular in America.
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Good luck greenlemonade.
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Thanks, and you too. Very interesting topic.
greenlemonade102
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Do you think so?
Well I better not show you where the lemonade is made.
Green Lemonade mmm Green lemonade.
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Interesting discussion. I shall read all of the arguments.
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Interesting but trying to remember the last time a NASCAR regular tried to jump to Indycar. Only person I can recall recently has been John Andretti, and he has never been much of a factor in each series, although I do believe he has one of the few wins for Petty racing since the King retired.
"back in the day" the whole situation was different. Most "Indy Car" (then known as "Open Wheeled Roadsters" came to the then USAC series from much the same way Tony Stewart arrived at Indy: Silver Crown series and related programs. So many factors changed that: the switch in the sixties to the rear engined, F1 type of car, the split with CART, and on and on. at the same time, NASCAR was spirited from a southeast sport to nationwide importance, and the money as well as the talent began to migrate there.
as to the throwdown, I will come back when I can make up my mind which way to vote. Not sure at this moment.
pondscum
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Had to get my vote in this time befor I get shut out, voted left again. Good Luck
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There are many more examples of IndyCar drivers being successful in NASCAR than NASCAR drivers even moving to IndyCars. Mario Andretti, AJ Foyt, Tony Stewart, Tim Richmond, John Andretti and JPM all have had some success in NASCAR after starting in IndyCars. Is it easy? No, and many drivers including Hornish, Franchitti, Carpentier, etc. did not find any success in NASCAR. NASCAR is where the US money is these days, so more drivers will try the migration to NASCAR.
The speed and open wheels would make it tougher to go from NASCAR to IndyCar. At Indy, the IndyCars qualify about 45 mph faster than NASCAR. Imagine standing on a street corner and cars going by at 45 mph - that is how much faster IndyCars are capable of going. Just a touch of the wheels at that speed could be disastrous to ones race, career, and life. In NASCAR, most bumping only leaves a black mark on the other car. Watch the in-car cameras on the IndyCar races where the top two or three finishers are going back and forth the last few laps, and finish within a car length. That is racing!
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I would feel safer in a NASCAR vehicle going slower.
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Okay, which of these sports can ya wear a beer dispensing hat from Spencer's Gifts(ha-ha)?
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Good call Donk, that was my guess also.
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Oh, I have spent MANY an entire race in the old snakepit in turn 4 back in the day, and only remember there was a race going on from the sights in the BACKGROUND of the pictures I took. No difference between the series on the "consumption" measurement.
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