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  • 06/20/2011, 02:36PM ET

Top QBs under 28.

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1. Rodgers-27-Easily the best.

2. Ryan-26-Among this group was second in yards and tied for first in TDs.

3. Freeman-23-Great TD/Pick ratio and second highest rating among group.

4. Flacco-26-3rd highest rating and second best completion percent.

5. Cutler-28-Crappy Oline and crapppy WR but still good numbers.

6. Bradford-23-Lead the Rams to more wins in one year(7) than they had the previous 3(6).

7. Fitzpatrick-28-Not the most accurate but he made the Bills a challenging opponet to beat.

8. Sanchez-24-Below average numbers but he wins(mainly because of the defense).

9. Stafford-23-Hasn;t stayed health but when he has he has shown glimpses of greatness.

10. Tebow-25-Took over Orton's posotion.

Honorable Mentions:

Orton-Great year until Tebow took over.

Flynn-Has looked good but not enough playing time.

Kolb-Very inconsistant.


1) Aaron Rodgers

2) Matt Ryan

3) Josh Freeman

4) Joe Flacco

5) Jay Cutler

6) Sam Bradford

7) Mark Sanchez

Fitzpatrick has shown only a couple signs of brilliance over this pass year. His stats though are way inflated. He put up his best numbers this year against bad teams such as JAC and CIN. He got killed against teams like NE and CHI.

Sanchez has the experience and better stats then Fitzpatrick. He has played in the playoffs, he has won big games, and even with a good defense, he still has better numbers then Fitzpartrick.

I think Sanchez is the better QB.

8) Ryan Fitzpatrick

9) Matthew Stafford

10) Kyle Orton

He is still a better QB then Tebow as of right now. He has posted decent numbers the past couple of years and as soon as Tebow starts consistently playing, its only a matter of time before defenses find a way to stop him.

I think that Orton's style of play will help him get farther along as a NFL QB and I think we will see him starting away from the Broncos soon enough.


Sanchez vs Fitzpatrick:
Fitz: 231ypg, 23TD, 15INT, 57.8%comp, 81.8PR
San: 206ypg, 17TD, 13INT, 54.4%comp, 70.4 PR

So Fitz has the better stats but he doesn;t win as much. Why doesn;t he win as much? Because his team isn;t stacked like Sanchez's.

Sanchez has the 4th best rush offense compared to Fitz 18th. He also has the 9th best scoring defense while Fitz has the 28th.

Who do they get to throw to?

Fitz: Only one of his WR had previously had a 1000 yard season
San: 3 of his WRs had 1000 yard seasons and one has the superbowl MVP.

So Fitz puts up better stats with worse talent around him.

Fitz also put up 19.9ppg while his back ups put up 8.0ppg. That is a huge increase from the backups to Fitz and shows how effective a QB Fitz is.

Orton vs Tebow:

They both had the same offense to work with and the same defense.

Tebow lead the offense to 25.0 ppg while Orton only lead them to 20.7 ppg. That's a huge increase in offensive production and shows that Tebow is a more effective QB.

Tebow also lead the team in pass in 2 out of his 3 starts showing that not only can he throw the ball but he can also run it.


Tebow vs Orton

Yes, Tebow did lead his team to 25 PPG, you may have forgotten to mention that he started in only 3 games last season. Also he lost two of them and only beat Houston by 1, 4 TD's and 3 INT's is nothing good on the passing side either.

In 2 out of 3 starts, you are still forgetting that shows nothing. He only played 3 out of 16 games. Orton performed day in and day out. Tebow had one good start and did mediocre the rest of his starts.

Adv. Orton.

Sanchez vs Fitz

Total TO:
Sanchez 14
Fitzpatrick: 20

That is a huge waste of positions right there, thats not the defenses fault or the receivers fault. You even put it yourself thats Fitz was less accurate.

Fitz is older and should have slightly better number then Sanchez. Even being younger Sanchez is more clutch against better teams, as I said earlier Fitzpatrick inflates his stats against crappy teams.

Even with a longer career, Fitzpatrick has less experience and only slightly better numbers. Think about how this experience will help Sanchez be elite very soon.

MMTC, will get to Sanchez's team next argument.


The thing about Tebow is that he took over the last 3 games. The team was 3-10. The players had not effort left in them and could really care less if they won any more games. Their season was over. Add that to the fact that the team was already terrible and Tebow has a huge battle to fight for success.

Just him winning one game and improving the offense is quite the accomplyish meant with the odds stacked against him.

Also under Orton the Broncos only scored 20+ points in 5 out of his 13 starts. Tebow lead the offense to 20+ points in each of his 3 starts. So the offense is more efficient under Tebow.

So Fitz had one more TO but he was also asked to do more for his team. Fitz has to try and make plays to win games. QBs will turn the ball over a few times when they have to make plays.

Sanchez was asked to manage the game and not turn the ball over yet he only turned it over one less time than Fitzpatrick.

Stats for throws 11 or more yards:

San-75/170, 44.1%, 12Td, 10INT,1724yards
Fitz-66/152, 43.4%, 15Td, 9INT, 1412 yards

So neither was very good but Fitzpatrick was way better when he had to make somewhat dangerous throws.

No room left.

Good TD Jorge.


You say the team was out of energy. Well one, they probably were not and wanted to fight to prove that they were better then they had played. Two, if you go by your philosophy, then the teams they played probably had gave up to.

Look who they played: Oakland: out Houston: out and San Diego: out. They had nothing to fight for either and there defense probably was done, this made it easier for Tebow.

Do you think because of Tebow they scored 20+:

One: the teams they played sucked other then the Chargers.

Two: They played good defense and a decent running game for 2 of those games

I will give it to Tebow that against Houston he played outstanding but that is 1 game, that mean nothing to how good he will be in the future.

Sanchez actually turned it over 6 less times. Plus, the stats you put show that Sanchez is farther better. 170 ATT to 152 ATT, shows that Sanchez tries to make more plays instead of Fitz like you said.

Two, in those stats Fitz averages a pick every 16.8 throws so if he had thrown the same amount he would have the same amount of picks.

Sanchez also has the better %. Overall Sanchez is the better QB

June 20, 2011  02:41 PM ET

Thanks for the direct challenge, I may have to drop it but we will see

June 20, 2011  02:42 PM ET

Alex Smith.

June 20, 2011  02:55 PM ET

Should be 28 or under.

June 20, 2011  03:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Alex Smith.

Ya not sure how Stafford made this list and Smith didn't

June 20, 2011  04:08 PM ET

Bradford is better than Cutler

June 20, 2011  07:44 PM ET

Fitzpatrick had one good season.

June 20, 2011  07:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Fitzpatrick had one good season.

And Sanchez hasn;t had one yet. Well he has had two if you include the Jets taking him to the championship game.

June 20, 2011  08:53 PM ET

Tim Tebow is by far better than Kyle Orton.

If you want an interception in the red zone, or a piss poor 4th quarter, Orton is your man.

Otherwise, you take Tebow.

June 20, 2011  09:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Alex Smith.

Agreed.

June 20, 2011  09:23 PM ET

Tebow lead the offense to 25.0 ppg while Orton only lead them to 20.7 ppg. That's a huge increase in offensive production and shows that Tebow is a more effective QB.


Stats don't always tell the whole story.

June 20, 2011  09:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

LIHI's comment

That's true, but what Tebow did on the ground, plus his not bad performance through the air(better than anybody will give him credit for) definitely puts him ahead of Orton.

Tebow hasn't given ANYBODY a reason to hate him. I'm a Dawgs fan, I watched Tebow wipe the floor with my team, and I still respect the hell out of the guy.

June 20, 2011  09:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

That's true, but what Tebow did on the ground, plus his not bad performance through the air(better than anybody will give him credit for) definitely puts him ahead of Orton.Tebow hasn't given ANYBODY a reason to hate him. I'm a Dawgs fan, I watched Tebow wipe the floor with my team, and I still respect the hell out of the guy.

Well, you know there's a part of me that can't give any Bronco credit... I just want to see more from Tebow before he shows up on an NFL QB list.

But I will say it's really too bad that he can't get any playing time with Fox. This lockout needs to end quickly or the season will be bunk for quite a few teams.

June 20, 2011  09:40 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Well, you know there's a part of me that can't give any Bronco credit... I just want to see more from Tebow before he shows up on an NFL QB list. But I will say it's really too bad that he can't get any playing time with Fox. This lockout needs to end quickly or the season will be bunk for quite a few teams.

That's fair enough, and if the lockout lasts much longer, the NFL lost itself a fan.

June 20, 2011  09:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

That's fair enough, and if the lockout lasts much longer, the NFL lost itself a fan.

I wish I could say that. I'll watch the damn replacements if I have to. Did it before and I'll do it again. Ugh.

June 20, 2011  09:55 PM ET
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I wish I could say that. I'll watch the damn replacements if I have to. Did it before and I'll do it again. Ugh.

I was losing interest as it was. The NFL fell to my 6th favorite sport before lockout talks.

I like the college game a whole lot better.

June 20, 2011  09:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

I was losing interest as it was. The NFL fell to my 6th favorite sport before lockout talks.I like the college game a whole lot better.

I get frustrated with college at times because the rules are different. I find myself hollering at the TV about a bad call then hubby reminds me it's college. But I do like the speed in which a college game is played. Really helps you to understand formations and various offensive packages because you can actually see the plays and schemes develop.

June 20, 2011  10:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I get frustrated with college at times because the rules are different. I find myself hollering at the TV about a bad call then hubby reminds me it's college. But I do like the speed in which a college game is played. Really helps you to understand formations and various offensive packages because you can actually see the plays and schemes develop.

Yeah, I live in the south. College football and NASCAR are religions down here.

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June 20, 2011  10:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Yeah, I live in the south. College football and NASCAR are religions down here.

So I've heard. Well, you might get NCAAB on Sundays too if the lockout holds. Now that the owners are balking amongst themselves, you never know!

 
June 20, 2011  10:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#19):

So I've heard. Well, you might get NCAAB on Sundays too if the lockout holds. Now that the owners are balking amongst themselves, you never know!

That would be NCAAF...

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