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  • 06/24/2011, 09:29PM ET

Baseball Team With the Brightest Future?

Lifer: The Man In Me (46-20-10) vs DJTG_2010 (83-23-4)
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First, a few rules:

1. Based on farm system, youth, ownership and stability.
2. MLB teams only.
3. No teams from the NL Central allowed.
4. The team you choose must be the Orioles.


After a lot of analysis, I've come to the conclusion that the team with the best chance to succeed over the next 5-10 seasons is without a doubt the Baltimore Orioles.

Their starting rotation is led by Brad Bergesen, sporting a healthy 5.53 ERA, and a 1.47 WHIP despite a misleading 1-6 record. The Orioles have also done a good job of spacing out the individual starts, with only 3 players getting over 10 starts - this means none of their starters will be burned out come September when the games really matter.

As far as batting goes, the Orioles have an outstanding 2 qualified starters with an OPS over .800, indicating a strong core group of hitters to build around - Mark Reynolds and Adam Jones. They made a gem of an acquisition in Derrek Lee, who has an OBP that is 73 points higher than his BA (.301 vs .238). Every team needs guys who can get on base, and that's where savvy vets like Lee come into play.

More to come. Please follow the rules - good luck!


Two words: Peter Angelos.

Has any one man put more out there for his team than this man? He's the reason why Mark Reynolds and Derek Lee wear the black and orange of the Baltimore Orioles. The man has a serious eye for talent and knows exactly where to put his money. Vladimir Guerrero is one of the shrewdest signings he has ever made.

While the Orioles have been steeped in futility for almost 15 years, Peter Angelos is the man to bring them out of this hole and he knows exactly what he's doing, especially with the draft. Peter Angelos has balls. You'd have to have a pair too to draft a kid that wants a $30 million signing bonus like Dylan Bundy. It just shows Angelos' iron will to win.

Angelos may have made himself the most hated man in Baltimore, but it's all part of his ploy to make Baltimore's turnaround even better. If he knows one thing about people, he knows that people love to love people they used to hate, and his contribution to this has been the 2000s, which any Orioles fan will never forget, no matter how many crabcakes they stuff in their faces.


DJ you ignorant ****:

Your argument is full of lose, losing more by the second. Everything you said about Peter Angelos is wrong. The truth is, NO ONE has put more out there for his team than this man. No one. Vlad Guerrero was not only a great acquisition, but he also has a well defined position (DH) that no one can take from him. The shrewdness and brilliance of the Lee signing I already discussed, and Reynolds is a guaranteed 25 HR - 70 BB - 80 RBI machine. Not many teams have a guy like that.


It's not that the people in Baltimore hate Angelos, it's that they want to love him. They're just waiting for the right time, and that time is now. The Orioles are preparing to blossom from a decrepit, disgusting turd-daisy into a beautiful bouquet of roses, its a matter of 'when' and not 'if'.


But the thing about the Orioles is, they have a heart. They aren't some machine constantly churning out wins. They've let aged vet Kevin Gregg be the closer despite his 1.47 WHIP and 76% save success rate. They've kept vets like Chris Jakubauskas in the rotation despite a 1.64 WHIP and 5.18 ERA.

In conclusion, your argument is bad and you should feel bad.


I agree that it is a question of when, not if the Orioles break out, but I think it will be for much different reasons.

Keeping fan favorite and local heart throb Brian Roberts in the mix gives the team a very attractive identity to keep fans coming in. While Roberts is expected to miss through the All-Star break, the shrewdness of keeping him out should be noted. When he comes back, there will be an instant morale boost and performance boost, thanks to his .331 slugging percentage mark. The man's been with the team for 10 years and knows what it takes to be an Oriole through and through.

What can I say about Luke Scott as well. Sure, Guerrero has that well-defined position that no one can take from him, but the same can be said for Luke Scott. And Scott's position can be seen as more important from a publicity standpoint: team racist. You heard his stuff about Obama's birth certificate -- the man's a lightning rod for controversy and that can do nothing but pump up the team and ignite it, giving it the chance to take off to the next level.


What in the name of Crunchy Christmas are you talking about?


First of all, Brian Roberts is no looker. He looks like some sort of cross between a mutant John Stamos and Peter Sarsgaard, but with a Glasgow Smile. Quite frankly, he sickens me to look at, and its a wonder his parents didn't pull the old Spartan baby on him and leave him on a hilltop when he was an infant.


And yes, his slugging % is down of late, but you can blame Major League Baseball for that, cracking down on steroids and trying to take away the livelihoods of pros like Roberts. It's despicable, really. Bud Selig should be ashamed.


I do agree with you on the Luke Scott thing, however. What he's doing now may seem like a new era of baseball, but it's really as old as the game.

Ty Cobb was a violent racist who beat a black groundskeeper and his wife, slapped a black elevator operator for being "uppity," and stabbed a black night watchman. He's also one of the best to ever play the game. Is Luke Scott as good as Ty Cobb? I'm not saying he is, but I'm not saying he isn't.


Forfeited Turn

June 24, 2011  09:32 PM ET

Helluva argument.

June 24, 2011  09:33 PM ET

Lifer!!!

June 24, 2011  10:06 PM ET

What about them braves With heyward,freeman and mcann with their power and a bullpen loaded with rookies and probally the rookie of the year craig kimbrel as there closer

June 24, 2011  10:11 PM ET
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Rule number 4.

Rule number 34.

June 24, 2011  10:11 PM ET

I dont follow rules

June 24, 2011  10:12 PM ET

I disagree with Lifer. I'm going with the Orioles.

June 24, 2011  10:12 PM ET

New Hampshire Fisher Cats. Oh wait.

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June 24, 2011  10:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Like thinking?

That's not one of the rules.

June 24, 2011  10:16 PM ET

I'm thinking of removing Rule #3. It's a bit restrictive.

June 24, 2011  10:17 PM ET

Bunch of vets making cameos....

June 24, 2011  10:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I'm thinking of removing Rule #3. It's a bit restrictive.

Ha.

June 24, 2011  10:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I'm thinking of removing Rule #3. It's a bit restrictive.

Remove Rule #2; that brings minor league teams, Japanese teams, and fictional teams in the discussion.

June 24, 2011  10:18 PM ET

"My oh My."

June 24, 2011  10:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Remove Rule #2; that brings minor league teams, Japanese teams, and fictional teams in the discussion.

I can't do that. If I bring minor league teams into play, the Brevard County Manatees will get the auto-win.

June 24, 2011  10:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I can't do that. If I bring minor league teams into play, the Brevard County Manatees will get the auto-win.

I'm going with the Gulway Waffle Sliders.

June 24, 2011  10:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

I'm going with the Gulway Waffle Sliders.

Rancho Cucamonga Quakes are in a close second.

June 24, 2011  10:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I can't do that. If I bring minor league teams into play, the Brevard County Manatees will get the auto-win.

Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters. No contest.

June 24, 2011  10:24 PM ET

Saturn's Baseball Brigade have the upside but they've had some substance abuse issues.

 
June 24, 2011  10:26 PM ET

Vermont Lake Monsters. I win.

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