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Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/11, 07:11 PM
You have the choice of the entire UFC...
These are not in any specific order...
My 5 choices would be:
1. Jon Jones -- Favorite fighter and is a great kid. Extremely hard work ethic, is willing to fight anyway, and is a complete beast. Would be easy to represent him since all he seems to do is win.
2. Anderson Silva -- This guy is another fighter who just seems to win all the time. He's got amazing fighting skills and would be great to represent. He gets bored in fights and just toys with his opponents. One of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the MMA.
3. Georges St. Pierre -- He has beaten everyone in the 170 division and he could beat them again too. There is no way you can't sign him.
4. Cain Velasquez -- He weighs 245 lbs, has a record of 9-0, has beaten Brock Lesner, and is cruising in the heavyweight division. He's set to cruise some more, too, and is a must-sign for you as an agent.
5. Jake Shields -- He dominated the welterweight division and with no one else left to fight there, he was forced to move up to the middleweight division. He is currently on a 14-bout winning streak and has the Strikeforce Middleweight title. A must sign.
SJ Pete said 07/11, 08:12 PM
As an agent I want guys that will make me $$. Sports agents get 10% of contracts they negotiate or if you go from a business stand point & say youre Dana White & which guys must you have on the UFC roster the answers are basically the same. You want guys who win consistently, put butts in the seats, & most importantly sell lots of ppvs
I will keep Jones GSP & Silva but I will change the other 2
1st replace Jake Shields w/ Brock Lesnar. Shields is 1 of the most boring fighters out there with his slow grind it out wrestling that sometimes leads to a nonexciting sub or most often a boring decision. The main problem w/ this is he creates no interest in the casual fan which leads to low hype up to events & low ppv sales. Also in his last 2 fights he had a controversial & unimpressive win against Kampmann & lost to GSP which killed some of the mystique he created w/ his winning streak & even hard core fans arent sold on him
Lesnar draws in diehard fans, casual fans & WWE fans. He dominates the UFC top 10 ppv buy rates & is the highest paid person in MMA. Hes also the person who gets the UFC the most attention on Sportcenter or online at epsn/si.com in their top stories. MTC
Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/11, 09:21 PM
Bring me money and bring me people in the seats while selling PPVs. That's what Shields is going to do. He wins. While it might not be the most exciting fights to watch, he wins, and brings in the money. That's not a bad thing at all.
Jake Shields is a more proven fighter of the UFC as well, posting a 26-5-1 record. Brock Lesnar isn't as proven, only fighting in 7 total fights in his career, posting a 5-2-0 record. I'll take a proven, more experienced fighter any day of the week over Lesnar.
My goal, as an agent, is to pick fighters who are going to win a high percentage amount of their fights, while bringing me money. Shields has won many more fights, has a better fight winning percentage, and can definitely bring in some good money.
While you're picking Penn over Cain Velasquez, I'm going to ask you why? Cain Velasquez is a better pound-for-pound fighter than BJ Penn, while Velasquez also has a 100% winning percentage, while BJ Penn is 16-7-2.
Some notables that Velasquez beat? Lesnar and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. And he beat Nogueira pretty easily as well, as it was in the first round. Cain has won 3 knockouts of the nights, including one vs Lesnar.
SJ Pete said 07/12, 11:38 AM
BJ Penn is my 2nd change. He has a large, devoted fanbase & theres also a large following of people who dislike him & watch to see him lose. Hes also 1 of the most exciting fighters win or lose & has 2 sub of the night & 1 ko (should be 3). He has multiple cards that he headlined in the UFC top ppv buys & with good matchups he can still headline & is a huge draw
Hes also useful as a top 5 contender in both LW & WW so theres more options w/intriguing matchups you can create w/him. Dont be fooled by his 16-7 record its like that bc he only faces elite competition. Hes beat Hughes Sanchez Kenflo Sherk Gomi Serra & Pulver. Those 7 losses are a whos who of the last decade in Edgar GSP Hughes Machida & Pulver
Cain is 9-0 but the only elite fighter he faced was Lesnar w/Nog way past his prime. Cains chin is still untested & hes about to face the best striker at HW. When JDS rocks him & wins his belt he loses his main selling pt which is his record. Hes still not a big draw with Lesnar being his first big ppv sale & thats bc of Lesnars drawing power not Cains
Rt now Penn is the more proven fighter, the bigger draw of the 2 & w/ more matchup options to keep him busy & active
Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/12, 12:38 PM
Cain knocked out Lesnar in the 1st round. Right there is a huge selling point, especially since he's a big-time fighter now. People are going to recognize him, remember him for his knockout of Lesnar in round 1, which got Knockout of the night, and they're going to watch his next fights. He'll be bringing in some big time money because of his reputation. That's a big plus. Add to the fact that he still hasn't lost and he's a must-have.
Shields can fight in either the welterweight or the middleweight divisions giving him the same amount of options that Penn has. I think that people tune in to watch Shields because they enjoy the ground game, like I do.
While he might not bring in the big money ppv, he wins fights and brings in a lot of revenue that way. It's just his style, and his style is liked by some, hated by others. It's the same with every fighter. I have no problem taking on Shields, while being confident that he can win and bring in a lot of money from winnings, titles, etc.
After Lesnar lost to Cain, he suffered from diverticulitis, for the 2nd time in his life, which has forced him to miss 1 fight and could miss more. Health concern I don't want.
SJ Pete said 07/12, 01:07 PM
Again as an agent I want guys that will make me $ & that means ppv sales/marketability
Lesnar/Penn together blow Cain/Shields out of the water on both. My 2 are more exciting than yours, have larger fan bases than yours & both not only have a history of ppv success that yours are lacking but for the forseeable future will continue to out draw yours. My 2 fighters are also more recognizable outside of the cage & can generate more endorsements & interest from the casual fans
Maybe Cain is a better option than Penn, but its not by much & Lesnar absolutely dwarfs Shields in bringing in viewers & being a crossover star & marketing so he absolutely makes up any marginal difference between Penn/Cain
Or break it down a 3rd way: Lesnar is a bigger draw & more recognizable/marketable than Cain. Penn is a better draw & will have better fights than Shields & generate way more fan interest. Sure Shields has a better record but not against the same quality of competition & just compiling wins doesnt get fans. His win streak didnt do any good for Elite XC or Strikeforce, its like Fitch & his lack of UFC interest. Boring wins= 0 interest
Anyway you break it down my 2 will make more $$
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Good luck.
Dyhard is a…
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There's a couple changes to be made.
Number 5 being an easy one IMO.
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I think you've looked at some outdated info on Shields Dyhard, he lost to GSP in his last fight, and has vacated his SF belt and jumped ship to UFC.
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I guess I need to shut the **** up.
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lol
SJ Pete
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When Pete posts his pick, I'll post mine.
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*picks
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I should have waited to say that about Shields until after you posted, but I know you don't need my help.
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sweet, it works.
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Nice choices. I think I would've changed a couple, but will wait to see what the other guy says.
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I didnt have room in argument 1 but so Dyhard can argue it in his 2nd if he wants, my other change will be Penn
SJ Pete
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Also its not really a Penn vs Cain and Lesnar vs Shields debate, simply Penn/Lesnar > Cain/Shields. I removed Shields first and argued Lesnar first because I felt Lesnar was definitely the biggest ommision and Shields the least deserving on the list
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I would keep Jones, GSP and Velasquez
I'd remove Shields, Pete hit the nail on the head, Shields is the most boring MMA fighter IMO, and all though he is good, being a boring fighter, most fans will roll their eyes when they see him on the main event. The same goes for Jon Fitch, Fitch is amazing, but his boring style makes him hard to market.
I'd replace Shields with JDS. JDS is young, he's trained under one of the most beloved fighters in MMA history, he's exciting, his standup is unmatched in the HW division of UFC, and his BJJ is getting better by the day. Him and Velasquez are easily the future of the HW division, there's no telling how many times these guys will fight for the title, and the HW division is the easiest to market, as it is the most popular division.
I'd also remove Anderson Silva simply because Anderson is getting old, I want to be able to make money off my fighter for years to come. Anderson is in his mid 30s, and has talked about retiring for a while now. He'll bring in some money for a few years, but not very long.
I'd take either Franke Edgar or Jose Aldo over him. Both are young, both are exciting.
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Also I was debating between a couple people to use in Cain's place and didn't decide until after that Penn was the one I wanted lol
SJ Pete
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JDS was the one I was trying to decide between with him and Penn
SJ Pete
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GSP has turned into a boring fighter.
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Yeah, but GSP is better than Shields and is a much bigger name that still draws in huge PPV buys.
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I enjoy watching him fight... Just like I enjoy watching Shields and Jon Fitch fight...
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He still sells the most ppvs and fills the seats better than anyone but lesnar. The shields fight wasn't that boring because he didn't want it to go to the ground so the whole fight was basically standing and his fght vs Diaz will be his best since Penn in terms of entertainment I think
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