- 07/19/2011, 11:44AM ET
CuntryBlumpkin said 07/19, 11:44 AM
I say no.
What's the difference between farming fish and farming cattle, pigs, chickens, or any other livestock?
I'm sure PETA has something to say about it, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no difference.
Fish farming helps keeps the price of certain kinds of fish at a reasonable level. It isn't as bad on the environment or ecosystem as commercial fishing.
Fish farming pretty much consists of keeping fish in a man made pond, with equipment when it comes time to send the fish to market.
Plus if you make fish farming illegal, you are essentially eliminating thousands of jobs at a time when it is hard to find a new job, economically speaking, it's a terrible idea to eliminate fish farming.
There are some environmental problems involved, and some call it animal cruelty when it comes to Salmon farming, but you must remember, Salmon farming has only been around in the US for around 30 years.
It's a fairly new industry, and as time goes on improvements will be made.
Keep fish farming legal.
Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/19, 12:22 PM
I say yes.
US aquaculture accounts for just 5% of Americans' seafood consumption, meaning that the amount of jobs that you're going to be cutting off, is really not that much.
Unhealthy parts of fish farming include have lower levels of omega-3s, which are cardiovascular-friendly. The farmed fillets are actually gray, but they put a pink chemical dye in there, making that unhealthy since you don't know what is in the chemicals.
China is responsible for 61% of the world's aquaculture. They're overcrowding their fish farms, which is leading to disease & pollution from fish waste which is overloading coastal waters with nutrients & causing dead zones that is killing sea life. The farmers have used antibiotics & other drugs, like malachite green, which is a carcinogen, on their farms to fight disease.
200,000 salmon can flush nitrogen and phosphorus into water at levels equal to sewage levels of a town of 20,000 people.
Efficiently farming salmon & sea bass, which are popular fish people like to eat, is almost as impossible as domesticating a tiger. In order to properly feed salmon & sea bass, you need smaller fish, due to being high on the food chain.
CuntryBlumpkin said 07/19, 09:39 PM
5% may not sound like much, but the seafood industry is a big one, 5 percent of it is a pretty big amount.
It's still gonna be thousands of jobs lost, and in this economy, I can't justify banning something that could send a lot of people into poverty.
And what you say in your argument is true, but keep in mind, fish farming is a realitively new industry. It takes time to get things like that perfected.
From what you've said, it sounds like to me that there should be stronger regulations enforced on fish farms, they shouldn't completely be done away with.
If you take away 5 percent of the seafood market, you can expect to see a pretty sizeable increase in the cost of seafood, which would hurt the entire industry.
Farming larger fish is more challenging, but they will figure something out, and farm raised Tilapia and fish of that nature are very common, and tastes just as good as Tilapia caught in the wild.
Don't ban it.
Make stronger regulations, give them more time to work out the kinks, don't buy fish from China.
Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/20, 12:39 AM
5% isn't that large of an amount. Remember, that's only the farmed fish percentage. It is around 1% or 2% if you add in caught fish as well.
90% of the salmon that you eat is farmed. AquaBounty has proposed to genetically modify the salmon so they grow twice as fast, which can result in a negative effect on human health as well as outcompeting the wild salmon once they escape, since salmon are known for doing that while farming them.
So you like farm raised Tilapia and you think they're just as good as Tilapia caught in the wild. You also say don't buy fish from China. The funny thing is, Tilapia is raised in China.
While it's new, why not stop it before it can grow to any bigger levels? You already have dangers caused to us, the people consuming them, and the dangers to the fish in the wild if any of the farmed fish escape. You also have dangers to the wild habitats for non-farmed fish due to the waste that can be sent out to waters that can completely kill off life.
If you make farmed fish illegal, you don't have to worry about US companies buying any fish from China or Australia or anywhere, because it's illegal!
CuntryBlumpkin said 07/20, 12:27 PM
Still, 1-2 percent of a multi billion dollar industry is a big chunk, and you would still see the prices go up accordingly.
90% of all salmon we eat is farm raised, you take away 90% of the salmon on the market, and Salmon, while already fairly expensive will become a luxury food.
Not all Tilapia is raised in China, I know for a fact that one of my old neighbors moved to Dominica to manage a Tilapia farm. The farm is called Dominica Red I think.
Why kill it off when you can set stricter regulations and improve the industry? Back in the early 1900's, the meat packing industry was disgusting, and look at it now.
I'm not comfortable with eliminating a lot of jobs, and I'm not comfortable with seeing the price of seafood rise.
And as for the last point, most fish you buy has a label that tells you where it came from.
If you don't like farm raised fish, don't buy, get a rod and reel and catch your own fish.
But to eliminate fish farming would be a bad thing.
Dyhard is a certified stoner said 07/20, 02:18 PM
If farming fish is made illegal, importing it would be made illegal as well. 1-2% isn't cutting much in all honesty.
You're right, not all Tilapia is raised in China. It's also in South America. While I wouldn't completely trust China with farming fish due to the chemicals that they put in their fish and how they over-crowd their farms and kill natural habitats in other waterways, I'm not going to trust South America, especially since a lot of their governments are corrupt & standards for food are severely different than our standards.
The price of seafood is going to rise whether fish farming is made illegal or kept legal.
The dangers and harmful effects that farming fish can have on the environment should be one reason why farming fish should be illegal. The harmful effects that farming fish can have on humans & their health should be even more of a reason to make it illegal.
You can only get Atlantic Salmon, oysters & mussels from the United States fish farms, so everything else is from out of the country. A lot of the Salmon is farmed in either Europe or on the northern East Coast.
Make farming fish illegal, human health & the environment are saved.
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