- 07/19/2011, 01:33PM ET
NEW NAME said 07/19, 01:33 PM
Commercial fishing is very good for our coastal communities. This type of fishing provides countless related jobs, from boat builders and bait suppliers, all the way to the folks who work at the local restaurants and markets that specialize in fresh seafood.
All told, commercial fishing brings $28 billion in seafood sales to the economy.
Another aspect we cannot ignore about commercial fishing is that most of these fishermen come from a long family history of fishing. It's not just work, it's a lifestyle and a heritage for these people.
Without commercial fishing the economies of many coastal communities would crumble.
Without commercial fishing, where would we get our wild seafood? Likely imported from other countries, ones that do not have as strict regulations or enforcement on overfishing - creating more undue strain on our oceans.
Or maybe Evil Multi-National Corporations will provide our fish through aquaculture.
Either way, the result would be negative.
Continued commercial fishing, using sustainable methods, is vital to a healthy coastal economy and integral to coastal community life.
Assassin: Simile Next year said 07/19, 03:42 PM
Not a bad argument, Kagan.
Commercial fishing is good for our coastal communities it gives jobs, money blah blah. It's a crappy job to say the least. Depends what kind of fishing you are doing but it can be a 24/7 365 days/year job.
You don't get paid for what you don't catch. No sick days, holidays, nothing. And it's not a job you can just pick up with ease. It takes years and years of skill to get where some fishers are today.
Commercial fishing is slowing killing North America's fish stock who are barely surviving in the first place. We can trade for all kinds of sea food and things that commercial fishing provides without killing the fish population. Scientists have found that many species of fish have been declining due to over fishing and the their population is declining at a rapid pace.
Trading/importing/exporting would still provide jobs for people. There needs to be a catch limit or weight to at least control the fishing and hang on to the population as long as we can.
SAVE THE FISH.
NEW NAME said 07/20, 10:24 AM
So we should just import all our seafood to solve the sustainability problem? Your solution likely would have the exact opposite effect.
From which countries are we going to buy the fish from? At least with fish taken from US waters, the fishermen must obey US laws, and therefore some amount of environmental oversight can be achieved. Fishermen can use such techniques as trolling and harpooning that limit the catch to only targeted species. Regulated fishing seasons can help depleted populations regain their viability. These methods, most already in place, control the fishing and help preserve the industry, however tenuous it may be at the moment.
Foreign fishers will use whatever gets the most fish in the cheapest possible way, thereby maximizing their profits. Gil-netting, shallow-set long lining, and trawling methods like bottom dredging will catch everything in their way indiscriminately and therefore have a much more adverse affect on aquatic ecosystems.
Importing provides jobs? Not to workers in coastal communities. Longshoremen in major port cities, maybe, but coastal fishers will be left to the unemployment rolls.
Save the Fish?
Eat American Fish!
Assassin: Simile Next year said 07/21, 03:10 AM
Commercial fishing is putting money and food on the table and making crappy jobs for people. But at what cost? The cost is the fish stock. The fish that live near the coastal communities, their homes.
The biggest problem with the commercial fishing in and near coastal communities is the over fishing that some fishing companies can do. Many different kinds of fish are in the "low population"ranks according to the NOVA website. That isn't good.
What happens when the "low population" fishes get over fished? The fishermen find a different kind of fish to make money off of. Sooner or later, that will become low populated.
See? It's a cycle. A death cycle non the less. As long as people eat fish, fishers will over fish and eventually kill off the fish around the coastal communities. Then where are we going to get our fish?!?! We trade for it. It's our (U.S's) only option.
Sooner or later Nemo and all his friends are going to be all fished out.
Something is just fishy about commercial fishing. Plain and simple.
NEW NAME said 07/21, 10:45 AM
Of course overfishing is a concern. But get your facts right.
According to the National Marine Fisheries Service, 77% of the 207 fish stocks in the US were not considered to be overfished. And their "sustainability index" for 230 species has been on the rise for 10 years now
According to the director of the Office of Sustainable Fisheries - part of the NOAA - overfishing has continued to decline as more fisheries have continued to rebuild, allowing sustainability in our resources as well as economic opportunity
In NE for example, stocks of Georges Bank Haddock and spiny dogfish have been rebuilt, and have resulted in increased revenues for fishermen for the first time in years
Some of the species considered "overfished" are not driven by overfishing at all. Natural population shifts and climate changes also can drive fish numbers down
Commercial fishing provides 1.9 million jobs in the US. Not all of them are "crappy" jobs either
Leaving fishing in the hands of foreigners? 70% of their stocks ARE exploited or depleted
American's science-based management of our fish stocks is proving to be the most superior method in the entire world
USA! USA! USA - Fish!
Assassin: Simile Next year said 07/22, 01:30 AM
Overfishing is going to happen. There is no way around it.
As long as commercial fishing is in business fish will continue to die. Can we agree on that? Sooner or later fish will be depleted.
Commercial fishers aren't making money rain down from the heavens either. An average yearly pay for a fisher is 44k a year. Working close to 365 days a year and making 44k isn't worth it, nor do we need it.
Natural population and climate changes drive the fish away? What do the workers do then? They have to fish for other kinds of fish. The workers have a smaller population of fish. Which equals overfishing.
Why doesn't the US do what it usually does? Be selfish and take from other countries. Let's save our fish and take from others.
70% of foreign stocks are depleted due to overfishing! Which is going to happen to the US if we keep commercial fishing legal. Now, who wants that?
Good work Kagan!
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