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()0P()0C()0H~HBO SAT. 6 PM! said 08/03, 06:08 PM
Tito is a BIG DRAW..WE should all know this by now..
Tito would have a 2 fight win streak..
Over the same guy Bones Jones beat to get a title shot, and in quicker fashion.. Also, IF Tito beat Rashad, he just beat the #1 contender..
Tito's cinderella story would sell on the way to a lightheavyweight title showdown..
Dana would love it!
DJRoxalot said 08/03, 08:20 PM
Tito beat Ryan Bader. That is a good win but not a great win. Beating Evans would be a great win. I think Tito Ortiz needs another fight or 2 before he gets a title fight.
Lets look at his losing streak before beating Bader, shall we?
0-4-1 vs some very good talent in Chuck Liddell, Rashad Evans (draw), Lyoto Machida, Forrest Griffin and Matt Hamill but he went almost 4 years between wins.
Tito beat Bader quicker? Yes, he did. But his career was also on the line and he had nothing really to lose. He went in attack mode and overwhelmed the younger fighter.
Big deal. This does not mean Tito is better than Jones, PCH. Come on, man!!!!
BRING IT!!!!!
()0P()0C()0H~HBO SAT. 6 PM! said 08/04, 12:35 AM
0-4-1 vs some very good talent in Chuck Liddell, Rashad Evans (draw), Lyoto Machida, Forrest Griffin and Matt Hamill but he went almost 4 years between wins.
very true, but his last fight with Forrest was a split decision loss, and Tito had a machida in a choke come the 3rd round bell...
I don't know.. I think we have to give him some credit for the Bader fight.. Sure Bader might not be elite, elite level yet, but he still was 14-1 coming into the fight with Tito.. Tito hit a miracle punch.. then comes mr. guillotine.. Tito went wild after the fight, not because of his 5 year streak per say, but just his chance to keep fighting in the company! Tito was supposed to lose that fight, and Dana set him up in my opinion.. Tito pulled the sh8t out.. Now he's fighting the #1 contender.. BEats Rashad, why does he have to fight another person..Give the old man some credit.. Tito's 36 with a NAME tHe size of the united states, in the business, Tito has knocked off a huge prospect in Bader, and now gunning down the #1 .. Wins both, it's a GREAT story.. Tito sells REGARDLESS.. I don't know if you know but he got 350k more than Cali Kid @ ufc 132! The cinderella storyline genuis!
DJRoxalot said 08/04, 11:21 AM
""very true, but his last fight with Forrest was a split decision loss, and Tito had a machida in a choke come the 3rd round bell..."
Amazing PCH type english. Didn't you go to a private school? Some Academy or something?
Bottom line, you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a freaking pig. I know they have pigs out there in Georgia. A loss is a loss know matter how you want to color it in favor of your BOI.
He was 1 fight away from getting kicked out of the UFC!!!! Winning 1 more against Evan SHOULD not equal a title fight.
Make him earn it. And it is really questionable if he even deserves to be fighting Evans.
MMA weekly has Shogun ranked No.2 (behind Bones Jones) and Evans No.3.
Fight magazine has Dan Henderson ranked No.2 (behind Bones Jones) and Evans No.3.
Sherdog and Yahoo have Evans ranked as the No.3 LH.
I say he should fight Hendo if he beats Evans. And if he can beat Hendo? Give him a title shot. That would be a win over a promising young fighter in Bader and 3 top quality wins.
()0P()0C()0H~HBO SAT. 6 PM! said 08/04, 03:43 PM
here's the FACTS
Tito Ortiz had a humiliating defeat to his pupil Matt Hamill, last October..
Dana was about to let Tito go THEN.. Dana said, "Tito, you want a shot, I'll give you a shot".. Dana pitted Tito against a guy that had wins against Keith Jardine and Lil Nog on his resume'.. Bader is no spring chicken, like i said, he was 14-1 going into the fight with Tito.. Bader's only loss was to the current lightheavyweight champ..
Dana and most of the mma world thought Tito had no CHANCE @ UFC 132..
Tito proved the critics wrong, Tito beat Bader in 2 minutes flat..
Now, to the current situation.. Tito's coming into this fight with 3 weeks of training.. 3 WEEKS of training against the #1 contender.. I know there's contenders out there. like you stated Shogun and Hendo..
Cool, I agree with that..
But, here's the dealio.. Tito's doing Dana a favor, after Dana did one for him.. Dana let him have another shot at his career, Tito succeeded.. Now, "IF" like I've clearly stated, Tito beats Rashad, he's taken out TWO HUGE names in the sport, in little over a month.
Rashad's fighting for a title shot against Tito, Tito should have that same priveledge!
DJRoxalot said 08/05, 12:27 PM
Bader is no spring chicken?
Whaaaaaaaat? says Stewie.
Bader is 28.
"Tito proved the critics wrong, Tito beat5 Bader in 2 minutes flat.."
Maybe, just maybe Bader is not as good as people thought as he accumnulated that flashy and snazzy undefeated record before getting his ass kicked 2 times in a row?
Chuck Liddell destroyed Tito twice.
Evans destroyed Chuck.
This whole TD is moot. Evans is going to beat Tito and it really may not be close. It is going to be a clinic put on by Evans.
"Rashad's fighting for a title shot against Tito, Tito should have that same priveledge!"
Evans is 15-1-1.
Okay, I will comprimise with you. If and I don't think he does, but if he somehow shocks the world and beats Evans? Give him a fight in early October and if he wins that?
Give him a title fight in early 2012 and hype it up tremendously as the Comeback of a lifetime.
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Dana is a girl's name.
tintedglass
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Not so fast, my friend.
Assassin: Simile…
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He won't beat Rashard
TTBengals98
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That's just ****.
Outlaw...
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Yes, it is.
DJRoxalot
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If he wins, that's 2 wins in 5 years, shouldn't be near enough for a title shot.
Outlaw...
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Anybody with more than 2 wins over the past 5 years.
Outlaw...
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My bad, did not mean to put the R
TTBengals98
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Hendo's contract with SF is up I think, maybe he should come back home and fight for the title.
Outlaw...
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Anything is possible after watching Fedor get knocked out for the first time by Hendo. Tito will get a shot at the title if he beats Evans for the PPV sells, but I just can't see it happening unless Evans does something stupid and gets submitted. When is the fight?
DonCorleone
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Agreed totally.
DJRoxalot
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Saturday.
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