Throwdowns > Closed

Argos. said 08/09, 12:49 PM
I'll go with the team that finished tied with them last season, the G-Men!

Lets go over Vick. He has only ever played 16 games in his career once, and I think we both agree that he wont be playing every game this season. But when he does play, there is no way he plays as great as he did last season. This year he is 31, with a ton of wear and tear already on his body, and last year he had a career year. You don't have career years back-to-back, that is why they are career years. He was terrific last season, but odds are the guy who only had a QB rating north of 80 in one season prior to last season will have another 100+ QB rating year.

Then you got Vince Young. He is Vince Young! Do you really think he is gonna win games in the tough NFC East?

And Vick is gonna take a lot of hits, playing behind a crappy O-line. Especially versus the Gaints great d-line.


The Giants strength is the run game. The Eagles defense will struggle against the run. They lost starting MLB Bradley. They now have an extremely undersized linebackers core, without a single LB over 6'1"!!!

They also have no LB on the team to ever record more than 55 tackles in a single season.

Argos. said 08/09, 11:06 PM
The Eagles also lost starting DT Bunkley. Bunkley and Bradley were not by far only their two biggest players in their undersized front 7, but also their two best players in the front 7. They didn't add any free agents at DT nor LB, not spent any draft pick in the first 3 rounds on player in the front 7, and only used 1 draft pick (4th round) in total in the front 7

The Giants were 7th in total defense last season, the Eagles were 12th

In passing D, the Eagles were 14th, the Giants were 9th. Yes the Eagles have improved, but how do they put all 3 CB on the field at once? We don't know how good they will be?

In rushing D, the Giants were 8th, the Eagles were 15th. But, expect a big drop off here for the Eagles, with an improved pass D, teams will run more and exploit the undersized front 7 and the losses of B&B

Scoring defense, Eagles were 21st!


The Giants maintained everyone, and added 1st round pick Prince Amukamara, the second best DB in the draft. They also added DT Marvin Austin the the second round


One more thing, the Eagles new D coordinator was promoted from O-line coach. He is the guy responsible for figuring out how to play the big 3 all at once?

Argos. said 08/10, 12:10 AM
The teams finished tied last season with Vick having a QB rating over 100. He has never even been above 85 before, odds of him repeating that 100+ QB rating are slim.

And Vick has progressed every year? It was 1 season!

No one is saying Manning will improve, he doesn't have to, they have won a SB with his play. He is solid and gets the job done on a team that runs the ball and plays great D.

They have 2 RB that averaged over 4.5 YPC, & have gone over 1000 yards in the past couple seasons. Heck, Brandon Jacobs is a lot bigger than every Eagles LB'er.


The Giants have a more consistent team. They had low turnover, and bring back one of the best defenses in all of football, who were great last season in what was considered a down year. The offense returns the leagues best two headed backfield, and Eli & his main weapon (Hicks!). You know what you are getting from this team, the Eagles are a mystery.


PS - Fantasy numbers have no indication on who is better, and power rankings are almost always way off to start the season. For example, last years pre-season power rankings had the Vikings #3, Cowboys #4, Eagles #17, Bucs #30, & Rams #32.