- 08/16/2011, 11:00AM ET
Stealth_Punch said 08/16, 11:00 AM
I'm no Leinart slappy, but after watching him in preseason play, and thinking about what difference, if any, would be made if he were under center for most of the season instead of Matt Schaub, I've decided that I think that he is better than a third of the current starting QB's in the league. I suppose this means I'll have to define who I consider to be the bottom 3rd of QB's are. Here we go, in no particular order:
I think he might be better than a few others, even, but a 3rd was the cleanest break. We can do breakdowns on performance after the response.
BigJoeWall72 said 08/16, 11:46 PM
There is no way that Matt Leinart is one of the top 24 QBs in the NFL, which is what he would have to be if he were better than the bottom 1/3 of starters. A team would have gone after him if he was better than what they had.
Not only did Arizona release Leinart after not impressing in the off-season/preseason last year, but he didn't even get a look from his best friend (college coach) Pete Carrol up in Seattle. Nor did he sign there this year. That is a huge indictment of his lack of skills in my book.
So that we aren't bouncing around and talking about 20 different QBs, I'll stick with the 12 (teams) that you have already listed. I'll touch on the no-doubters first:
Matt Hasselbeck has led his team to a Super Bowl, and while he isn't quite his former self, he's still better than Leinart, who hasn't even started an entire season for a team. Same goes for McNabb, who I think will be starting in Minny.
When he's been given a chance, Jason Campbell is a little above average, and that's plenty enough to be considered better than Leinart. Likewise with Fitzpatrick.
Colt McCoy showed something last year, and has looked better in his preseason time than Leinart has.
Stealth_Punch said 08/17, 09:04 AM
I hope I'm safe in assuming you think he's better than 8 you did not list. If I'm wrong in the assumption, we can address the others in the next one. If I'm right, then he's already better than a quarter of starters, and I've only got to show he's better than the other three to win.
In Hasselbeck's last season as a starter (2010) Hasselbeck went 266-444 for 3001 yds, 12 TDs, 17 INTs. His record was 6-8 in those 14 games.
In Leinart's last season as a starter (2006) which is the last time he was in enough games for a fair comparison, he went 214-377 for 2547 yds, 11 TDs, and 12 INTs. His record was 4-7 on those 11 games.
Leinart threw for 17 more yards per start, had a better TD to INT ratio, does not have a bad back, and has never thrown an INT immediately after guaranteeing a score on a microphone. I'd take him today over Hasselbeck.
Campbell: Satistically similar to Leinart. TD to INT ratio is better, but YPG is often much lower. Edge on arm strength to Campbell, slight accuracy edge to Leinart. Campbell has been given far more chances and has never put up a winning record.
YPG, TD-INT, Record, all worse than Leinart as starter.
BigJoeWall72 said 08/18, 08:52 AM
28 minutes remaining? Uh-oh, looks like I'll need to make this short and sweet. I'll give you Henne, Jackson, and Smith, even though none of those guys were replaced the way Leinart was in AZ. I can't give you Hasslebeck, McNabb, McCoy, Garrard, or Campbell - teams even went after those old guys!
I'll say it again, if any teams thought Leinart was good enough to start, they would have gone after him. Even one of the rookies you mentioned could have been replaced by Leinart, yet was not (Dalton).
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