- 08/23/2011, 02:35AM ET
duhwinning said 08/23, 02:35 AM
With the offensive weapons they have and having them all start to peak at this time in the season they may start to run away with this division and in the postseason they could be a very dangerous team even to a New York or Boston.
The potential 3 man rotation with Verlander, Scherzer, and Fister/Penny could be very very strong and all have ace like stuff. With 3 potential aces on their playoff rotation teams are going to have to hope a) their pitching can hold up against detroits offense or b) detroits seemingly invincible true ace Verlander gets into a plane crash.
As for their offense, the top 6 hitters are all very good and can hit for both power and average. Running into a team like that in the post season is not a very good thing for any team, but for teams like Boston and New York, who dont have great pitching, they will have to rely on their offenses and with the three man rotation the tigers have that could be very very difficult.
Now i use potentially alot, because we have seen Detroit at their very worst this season and it seems like a 4 yr old tee-ball team when they arent very good, so this whole thing is hypothetical
Sabih said 08/23, 12:38 PM
I love how you stay away from making a definitive statement instead using words like hypothetically and potentially.
First lets look at Detroit's numbers right now. They have scored the 8th most run in the league. Their 578 runs scored are nearly a 100 less than NYY's 675 and BOS's 670. In terms of hitting, BOS and NYY have proven to be superior than DET this year.
Also, they have allowed 574 runs, the 8th most runs in the league. The NYY's have allowed 487 and BOS has allowed 530. I guess so much for the superior pitching argument. Also, its not as if BOS and NYY do not have their share of big game pitchers.
As a result, their run differential of +4.
Compare that to Yanks (+188), BOS (+140), TEX (+118) or PHI (+156)
The team is 1-5 against BOS, 4-3 against NYY and 6-3 against TEX. Those are good numbers but they haven't outright dominated any of the teams.
Since AS break
NYY's record 24-13
DET is 19-15.
So they haven't exactly set the league on fire as you would have us believe.
I have just focused on AL and this year, if you want to talk about future, i will talk about that next.
duhwinning said 08/23, 09:47 PM
The tigers have had let downs in pitching when starting that 4 and 5 slot in the rotation, hence the large amount of runs allowed. Im not going to say they are the best team out there like you think i am, i am just pointing out that in a short rotation series with these teams they will have a very good chance. The Red Sox played Detroit in the worst part of the season for the tigers and when you look at the series' they could not have played any worse. Against the Yankees, who have no real 3 slot for the post season behind C.C. and Nova, they should put forth a sollid effort and with the Verlander toeing the slab they have a very good chance to win
The team that comes out of the West should be counted as a pushover as neither the angels or the rangers have done anything of great recognition.
As for saying that they are a hot team i never said that. when they start clicking like they have in the past week or so though, they are pretty tough.
Boston and New York do have game changer aces, but thats it. If you look at the rest of their rotations they are semi mediocre and do not present too much of a scare to most teams, good but not great
Sabih said 08/24, 02:43 AM
Your whole premise of the TD is, when Detroit is good they are very good (your words). That does not make you a contender. That can be said about a lot of teams. Problem is Detroit has not shown to be very consistent. They and ARI have the worst record of all playoff teams by 4 games.
So they won't have likely have homefield advantage and will likely face BOS in round one.
There is a difference between a "good chance" to beat a team and being contenders.
A lot of teams can steal a series, if the D'backs catch fire, they can easily knock out PHI in the first round.
So far there have been basically 3 contenders so far in MLB. PHI, NYY and BOS.
Right now, these teams are more talented and playing better than DET.
MIL has emerged over the past few months as a dangerous team. And are more of a contender then DET.
Boston and New York do have game changer aces, but thats it
Lester, Beckett, Lackey and Pappelbon as closer to go along with the batting lineup. All pitchers with playoff experience and WS rings.
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