- 08/25/2011, 10:40PM ET
ChillBroBaggins said 08/25, 10:40 PM
The only 2 quarterbacks who are better than Big Ben right now are Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, and with Manning's injury it's possible Roethlisberger will be the 2nd best quarterback in the NFL this season.
Before your right me off listen to these facts: Roethlisberger has been to the Superbowl 3 times and won it twice and he's only entering his 8th season! The only reason more people don't think of Ben as a top 3 QB or even a top 5 QB is because we live in a world controlled by fantasy sports and he doesn't put up big fantasy numbers. But he gets the job down. No one whose name isn't Michael Vick has more intangibles than the Steeler QB.
Don't try to argue Aaron Rodgers is better cause he was drafted just a year after Ben and has only played in 1 Superbowl, Vick had an amazing year last year but has never won a Superbowl. Don't argue Philip Rivers either cause he couldn't even get his team into the postseason last year and has never won a Superbowl.
Say what you want about regular season stats, but Ben is the guy that gets it done. He's who I want on my team day 1 cause I know theres a good chance we'll still be in it on the last day of the season. He is a playoff monster!
fvkasm2x said 08/25, 10:56 PM
Ben is the right QB in the right system on the right team. He doesn't attempt to throw a lot of long passes, hard passes or try to win the game himself. He utilizes the entire team and his surroundings.
That makes him a very smart QB and a very good QB. Does that make him the 3rd best? I'm not sure if I'd go that far.
Last year (with missing a few games by suspension) his standings in the QB areas:
- 18th in yards (6th in yards per game... to judge fairly)
- 19th in TDs (13 TD's back of 5th place)
- 5th in passer rating
So if you look at last year's stats, he is definitely top 10 and borderline in top 5
How about 2009? Same stats:
- 7th in yards
- 26 TD with 12 INT
- 10th in total TD's
- 5th in passer rating
How about 2008? Same stats:
- 14th in yards
- 15th in TD's
- 17 TD's with 15 INT
- 24th in passer rating
The man steps it up in the playoffs. But winning the Superbowl doesn't necessarily make you a top 3 QB in the league. Football by far the most team oriented sport there is. Defense is just as important and you can't overlook special teams. Pittsburgh is notorious for their defense...
ChillBroBaggins said 08/25, 11:09 PM
Heres the deal, in the regular season he is a top 5 quarterback, maybe not a top 3 in the regular season. But he is so amazing in the play-offs that that has to push him into the top 3. His style of just marching it down the field with the deep throws, and he does it in the most ridiculous circumstances. Last year against the Ravens in the play-offs the Steelers looked down and out, but thanks to Ben (and yes his defense helped but they got him into the whole in the first place) the Steelers had an amazing comeback to advance to the AFC Championship game, if I remember correctly Ben drove the Steelers down the field in the last 4 minutes of the game to win it. That's Ben's style, no other QB can play the game he does. He's the size of a polar bear and can dodge out of so many tackles and then make an amazing completion. And he plays injured like a boss. Remember last year when he played with an injured foot and broken nose. The guy is ridiculous. How can you argue he isn't a top 3 quarterback?
What QBs would you put ahead of him other than P. Manning and Brady?
fvkasm2x said 08/26, 03:43 PM
"Heres the deal, in the regular season he is a top 5 quarterback, maybe not a top 3 in the regular season."
I may not agree with your first stance, but I have to respect a guy who states what he thinks and defends it with heart.
You just turned yellow and changed your stance. Now he's a top 5 QB? Don't wuss out.
"Ben drove the Steelers down the field in the last 4 minutes of the game to win it. That's Ben's style, no other QB can play the game he does. "
I'm pretty sure every QB in the league practices a 2 minute drill with his team and they have played the exact game style several times over the year and repeatedly in practice. Ben winning a few games with last minute drives doesn't seperate him from the pack. I've seen other QB's do that also.
Rivers, Rodgers and Brees are in the discussion for top 5 QB's IMO. Along with Ben. Rivers has better stats, but no Championsips. Ben has decent stats but several Championships.
If Ben is so awesome, how do you explain that his team went 3-1 with a very mediocre backup QB while he was suspended last year?
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