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  • 08/29/2011, 07:49AM ET

Over/Under (11 Wins) for the Philadelphia Eagles in 2011

KingKongSuh90 (0-1-0) vs Celtics Rule! (4-1-1)
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I'll take the UNDER


Nice, well thought out argument. Not bad from a newbie. But allow me to retort......

Here is how I think Philadelphia will do this year.......

@Rams - W
@Atl - L
NYG - W
SF - W
@Buf - W
@Wash - W
Dal - W
Chi - W
Ari - W
@NYG - L
NE - L
@Sea - W
@Mia - W
NYJ - W
@Dal - L
Wash - W

I have 12-4. I don't see them being "dominant" because I think they will have trouble with the other elite teams in the league but they have enough weapons to get to 12 wins just because I don't think their schedule is all that tough.

But because I'm a nice guy (and I think this is a dupe account I'm battling) I will give you a chance to respond right about now.

MTC


With all of the additions to Philadelphia this offseason, their success in 2011 will still revolve around #7. Unfortunately, for the Eagles, he will need more than one bye week this year. Vick hasn't played an entire season since his pre-prison season. That was 5 years ago. Odds are against him when you discuss him being on the field week in and week out Vince Young, already a "has-been," is only a backup that has a better ring to his name than Danny Kolb. He won't be of much help when #7 is on the sidelines for a few weeks.


Guard, Danny Watkins, has been atrocious this preseason. He has been a huge factor in Vick's sub-par performance this preseason. Yes, we know it's only preseason, but it is a true indicator how your O and D linemen will play the first few weeks of the season. Watkins is a rookie and has been on a slow learning curve.

Back to you, MTC


Preseason games are not necessarily a true indicator on how a person or team will perform in the regular season. If that were the case the Colts would suck every year as they have won 2 preseason games in the last 6-7 years.

As far as Watkins is concerned, Reed and Co. will do whatever it takes to help him out as needed. Yes he hasn't done well but he will improve.

First of all, you are ASSUMING Vick will get hurt sometime this year and miss a few games. You can't assume that for this argument because which games will he miss? He can probably afford to miss games @Sea and @Mia because Philly even with Vince Young at the helm will score enough points to win those games because their defense will be outstanding and hold those two weak offenses to next to nothing in points. But if he misses a stretch like @NYG and NE that's a different story. You

Even if Vick gets hurt, Vince Young is a capable QB that can step in and run the team.


You have the Eagles going 7-1 at HOME this year, losing only to the Patriots - as expected. The last time they accomplished that great of a home record was in 2004... they just so happened to have the #2 Defense. In 2011, they aren't ranked that high, nor will the end up anywhere near those rankings. The Eagles home records since 2004 are:

2010: 4-4
2009: 6-2
2008: 6-2
2007: 3-5
2006: 5-3
2005: 4-4

Honestly, the 2011 Eagles are supposed to be better than the 2004 Eagles. But what is not on paper, or in the news, is the difference in how the word "TEAM" is defined now. Back in 2004, the Eagles had a "TEAM CONCEPT." The 2011 Eagles have alot of "INDIVIDUALS" on their roster this year.

Winning 5 of the last 6 games in the NFL, no matter who you are, is quite difficult.


''In 2011, they aren't ranked that high, nor will the end up anywhere near those rankings.''

I hope not, nobody has played yet. Duh. Besides they will be a top 10 defense, maybe top 5 with their new additions.

Just because they picked up a lot of new talent doesn't necessarily mean that they can't play as a TEAM. Look at NE, a true definition of team concept, they picked up two of the biggest individual players in Haynesworth and Ochocinco, are they not a TEAM, any longer?

This team went 10-6 last year. That includes them not playing hardly any starters the last week of the year against a bad Cowboys team because they had already clinched not only their division, but their playoff positioning. No since in anybody getting hurt. They barely lost that game 14-13 with their backups.

No reason to think that the new acquistion couldn't win them an additional 2 games compared to last year. Andy Reed is on the hot seat big time and will have this team motivated to win. The new acquisitions that came to Philadelphia all said the same thing that they just wanted to do one thing, WIN, not collect a paycheck.

With this talent, they should just fall into a 12-4 record.

August 29, 2011  10:23 AM ET

Eagles are sweeping the Giants. They'll probably lose to the Jets though.

August 29, 2011  11:44 AM ET

I disagree in regards to elite teams. The Eagles have never had problems in the regular season beating elite teams. They beat Atlanta, Indianapolis and swept the Giants last year. Their main problem is falling asleep against teams like the Redskins and Cowboys and of course the yearly tradition of choking in the playoffs.

August 29, 2011  11:50 AM ET

by the way, someone hacked into my old email "realdealrulz"

pretty disappointing being that i had that email address for almost 15yrs!

August 29, 2011  12:07 PM ET

They'll lose to the Bears again.

August 29, 2011  01:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They'll lose to the Bears again.

This, and then it won't matter anyways cause they will lose first round of the playoffs.

August 29, 2011  01:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They'll lose to the Bears again.

Soldier Field's poorly kept, chewed up turf had a major impact on that game. This time they'll get to play on a real field.

August 29, 2011  01:35 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They'll lose to the Bears again.

Not on artificial surface they won't

August 29, 2011  02:46 PM ET

WOW, I figured I was being dupified. My opponent and somebody else named "ToWhomItMayConcern'' both were created today and guess who voted for my opponent? Hmmmmmm

August 29, 2011  03:14 PM ET

Danny Kolb?

By the way, Vick has missed five games total in his last 4 seasons as a starter (he was held out of the final game last year). And Vince Young, if he had enough attempts to qualify, would have had the 5th best passer rating in the NFL last season. Throwing to Nate Washington and Kenny Britt

August 29, 2011  03:15 PM ET

No CELTICS, that is not the case. I am my won man here.

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August 29, 2011  03:45 PM ET

I am my OWN man here is what I meant, lol...

August 29, 2011  04:09 PM ET

I love sweeping generalizations with zero proof.

How did the Eagles in 2004 have a "TEAM CONCEPT" and why do they have a lot of "INDIVIDUALS" this year. That one will have to be explained. So you are saying the players on the Eagles this year only care about themselves and not about winning? I would love to see the evidence that shows this.

August 29, 2011  04:26 PM ET

WOW 4 votes for left and three of the accounts were created today, hmmmmmmmmm, can you say DUPES...................

August 29, 2011  04:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

WOW 4 votes for left and three of the accounts were created today, hmmmmmmmmm, can you say DUPES...................

Even though you spelled Andy Reid's last name wrong, I'll give you a vote. Wasn't a difficult decision when your opponent makes pitiful arguments.

August 29, 2011  05:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Even though you spelled Andy Reid's last name wrong, I'll give you a vote. Wasn't a difficult decision when your opponent makes pitiful arguments.

Oh damn, I did didn't I, crap but thanks for your support.....

August 29, 2011  08:27 PM ET

WOW, accusations of "dupes." So much for taking this site seriously... damn

August 30, 2011  10:32 AM ET

iggles are going .500 on the season....

August 30, 2011  11:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Oh damn, I did didn't I, crap but thanks for your support.....

hahaha its nothing.

 
August 30, 2011  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

WOW, accusations of "dupes." So much for taking this site seriously... damn

Well when you look at the arguments you made and then look at the score being 6-7, its kind of obvious something strange is up.....

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