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  • 09/08/2011, 11:25AM ET

The Bengals will be in 1st place in the AFCN after week 1 with dreams of a undefeated season intact.

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The battle of Ohio is week one. To be clear Ohio sucks as a state but that isn't the TD.

Colt McCoy may be a fine young QB but with Eric Steinbach and the RT both out for Sunday's game it will be hard for him to stay on his feet with the Bengals DE tandem of Carlos Dunlap and Michael Johnson. If there are two faster DE's in the league please do show them to me. Playing behind those two may be two of the fastest OLB's in league as well in Manny Lawson and Thomas Howard. And with the wrecking ball Rey Maulauga in the middle along with Atkins, Sims, and Peko as the DT's the Bengals have a pretty solid front 7.

The Bengals won't score much but will not have to with a strong defensive showing. The Bengals will contain Hillis and make Cleveland win by passing which i'm not sold on them being able to do.

Clevland's D is a good start for Dalton. He isn't going to win the game by passing the entire time but he will make smart throws to avoid turnovers and a very quick release to avoid sacks. The Bengals are going to run Benson and Scott as often as they can but they still have big play capability at WR in AJ Green and Jerome Simpson with Jermaine Greshem at TE.


On the road for his first game is a good start? No sir.

The Bengals lost last year (with a better and more experienced QB) at Cleveland. A rookie's ideal first start is playing at home.

Cleveland's defense? They were 13th last season, allowing just 20.8ppg. Not too shabby at all.

"He isn't going to win the game by passing the entire time but he will make smart throws to avoid turnovers"

Cleveland's defense was tied for 8th with 19 INT's. This is a defense that is very capable, they will pressure the rookie and force him into making some bad throws.

"The Bengals are going to run Benson and Scott as often as they can"

Benson had just 60 yards rushing last season at Cleveland. He runs the ball a lot more effectively at home. He averaged just 51ypg last seaon on the road. For whatever reason.

AJ Green is a rookie with another rookie throwing him the ball. That is not an ideal situation.

Jerome Simpson? 20 catches and 13.9ypc doesn't scare any team. 21 catches in his 4 year career? That's horrible.

Colt McCoy has RB Peyton Hillis to rely on. And he ran for 102 yards last season at home vs the Bengals.

More to come on why the Browns win.


The better more experienced QB that coughed up the ball twice that game? The one who set the record for most pick 6's in a season last year? In Jay Grudens West Coast offesne i'll take Dalton over Palmer. A smarter QB with a quicker release will have more success in that offense.

I will also throw this out there. The Bengals upgraded majorly their OC posistion with Gruden. Bartowski was the worst coordinator in the league last year. The Browns took a step back losing Rob Ryan as their DC. I hate them but those Ryans know their defense.

Benson had just 60 yards because Cleveland couldn't stop the pass last year and the Bengals didn't have to run Benson.

Uh... What is not ideal about having an AJ Green type of player on the field? Dude is a monster. When you get mentioned with names like Calvin, Larry, etc. coming out of college you are an ideal type of player.
And ask the Chargers and Ravens two solid defenses playing meaningful football what Simpson is like when given a chance. 18 grabs 247 yards and 3 TDs in those two games.

McCoy has Hillis but also two holes on that line. Explain how that is going to get fixed for me please. Thats not ideal.


"The better more experienced QB that coughed up the ball twice that game? The one who set the record for most pick 6's in a season last year?"

61.8%, 248ypg, 6.8ypa, 26 TD's, 20 INT's with a 82.4 Passer Rating

Palmer had a bad year? He threw a lot of INT's, but if you think Dalton is going to have a better overall year? You are still high.

A smart QB? That is your main point? How many Ivy League QB's make it to the NFL? Not too many. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the exception, not the rule.

Jay Gruden? This is the savior? He is in his first year in the NFL as an OC. He spent 2002-2008 in Tampa Bay as an offensive assistant. When John Gruden coached the Bucs. He didn't catch on with another team when John left TB. He went to the minor leagues of pro football. His main experience includes teams called the Nashville Kats, Orlando Predators, and the Florida Tuskers.

This is his first year as an OC in the NFL. With a rookie QB, WR and a 2nd WR who has been awful. Not a whole lot of experience. Not a recipe for success.

The Bengals had a whopping 27 sacks last year, appropriately enough ranked 27th in the NFL. McCoy will get rid of the ball quickly if pressured or run.


Dalton isn't going to have to have a better year the Bengals are going to rely heavily on the run. Last year they just chucked it up and hoped for the best.


There is a difference between football smarts and scholar smarts there genius.

Gruden is a very good offensive mind with a system that works very well with the pieces the Bengals have. Bartowski's offense sucked and was very predictable. A coach has to work his way up some how. Gruden has put in his dues.
You have yet to address the Oline issues and the loss of Rob Ryan. I understand why though.

Dalton is very pro ready, not a problem. Green is a world class talent, once again not a problem. And quit acting like Simpson has had an oppurtunity to play over those 4 years. Judge him off his performance when he gets a chance. He came through huge against the Chargers who could have made the playoffs and the Ravens.

Browns feature a 2nd year WR and a rookie as well. Much less talented than Green as well.

The Bengals defense features plenty of new starters and upgrades from last years team. The Bengals greatly improved there. Last season is irrelevant.


"Dalton isn't going to have to have a better year the Bengals are going to rely heavily on the run."

If they had a good RB that might work, but Benson averaged 3.5 ypc, tied for 42nd in the NFL!!! He had just 28 receptions out of the backfield. Teams are going to focus on stopping the run. They are going to want this rookie to BEAT them through the air.

And McCoy? He has a heck of a RB to rely on in Hillis, who averaged 4.4ypc running the ball with 11 TD's. He also caught 61 passes out of the backfield and gives McCoy a dual threat.

Cleveland has some talent at WR that have actually proven themselves more than Cinci's receivers have.

TE Benjamin Watson is an experienced player. 7 catches for 92 yards vs Cinci last season.

Brian Robiskie. He had 5 catches for 82 yards, including a 46 yarder vs Cinci. He also had a TD.

The Bengals defense is better?

They lost 1 of their best players in Jonathan Joseph who fleed to the Texans. And replaced him with Nate Clements. That is not an upgrade, but a downgrade. Clements had 10 just PD's last year, which is just 7th best in his 11 year career.

September 8, 2011  02:00 PM ET

EVEN if the Bengals WIN they will not be in first place............In anybody's mind..

September 8, 2011  02:26 PM ET

"The battle of Ohio is week one"

Can 2 teams that have been so bad for so long really be said to be having a Battle??? Wouldn't this be considered more of a tussle? Or a mild dust up? Or perhaps even a slapfest?

September 8, 2011  02:56 PM ET
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EVEN if the Bengals WIN they will not be in first place............In anybody's mind..

They would technically be tied with the Steelers for first

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September 8, 2011  03:17 PM ET
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watching a close game with 2 lousy teams are sometimes as entertaining as 2 winning ones.

I'm afraid that's a matter of opinion. A 2010 Lions/Bills, Bengals/Browns Or Panthers/Cardinals tilt would have been good for falling asleep and not much else.

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September 8, 2011  03:47 PM ET
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watching a close game with 2 lousy teams are sometimes as entertaining as 2 winning ones.

Yep, can't wait to watch that thrilling matchup of Carolina vs. Arizona, or Bengals vs. Browns games. Yep, I'd rather watch those than the Steelers vs. Ravens or Packers vs Saints games

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September 8, 2011  03:53 PM ET

"If there are two faster DE's in the league please do show them to me."

Uh, Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis ring a bell?

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September 8, 2011  03:58 PM ET
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not usualy when they're inter divisional games.

Really? So a Panthers/Bucs match-up or a horriffic Bengals/Browns match-up would be worth watching just because they're inter divisional games? I'm afraid you are very much in the minority on that oone. Give me Steelers/Patriots, Colts/Ravens or Packers/Saints over those snoozers any day of the week!!

September 8, 2011  03:59 PM ET
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and a Steelers/Bengals game you wouldn't watch either right?,just too see how lopsided the score is?

I'm a die-hard Steelers fan, OF COURSE I'd watch that game. But I sure as hell wouldn't watch Ravens/Bengals to see a lopsided score.

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September 8, 2011  04:03 PM ET
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obviously not in yers for sure ,with that Steeler banjo yer sporting. and you already know everyone else's mind and your's is obviously made up, so i won't waste my time reasoning with you.

While technically they will be in first place, that doesn't mean anyone with an ounce of sense believes they will stay there. Hell the Pirates were in first place as late as July. Dosen't mean anyone thought they were actual contenders to win the division.

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