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Devil Within said 09/08, 01:20 PM
In order - list all your choices, not just your changes
1. Babe Ruth: HOF, 1 MVP (and 1 other top-5 finish), 2 time All-Star, 2503 games, .342 batting average, .474 OBP, .690 Slugging %, 714 HRs, 2217 RBIs, 2873 Hits, 2062 BBs and 1330 Ks.
2. Hank Aaron: HOF, 1 MVP (and 7 other top-5 finishes), 21 time All-Star, 3 Gold Gloves, 3298 games, .305 batting average, .374 OBP, .555 Slugging %, 755 HRs, 2297 RBIs, 3771 Hits, 1402 BBs and 1383 Ks.
3. Roberto Clemente: HOF, 1 MVP (and 3 other top-5 finishes), 12 time All-Star, 12 Gold Gloves, 2433 games, .317 batting average, .359 OBP, .475 Slugging %, 240 HRs, 1305 RBIs, 3000 Hits, 621 BBs and 1230 Ks.
4. Frank Robinson: HOF, 2 MVPs (and 4 other top-5 finishes), 1 ROY, 1 AL Batting Triple Crown, 12 time All-Star, 1 Gold Glove, 2808 games, .294 batting average, .389 OBP, .537 Slugging %, 586 HRs, 1812 RBIs, 2943 Hits, 1420 BBs and 1532 Ks.
5. Mel Ott: HOF, 3 top-5 MVP finishes, 11 time All-Star, 2730 games, .304 batting average, .414 OBP, .533 Slugging %, 511 HRs, 1860 RBIs, 2876 Hits, 1708 BBs and 896 K
rayswinwildcard said 09/08, 02:25 PM
This was tougher than I realized. Originally, I was going to put down Al Kaline over Ott, but all of Ott's stats are superior except for hits, which he's only about 150 behind. So I didn't make any changes in terms of who is on the list.
However, I did shuffle the order at the bottom a bit. I tried to look at the players' bodies of work: run production, ability to get on base, fielding ability, and speed.
I think Ruth and Aaron are in the correct order, so:
3) Ott
155 wRC+, 50 Fielding Runs above average, 15.1% BB, 7.9% K, .414 OBP, .432 wOBA, 116.1 WAR
4) Robinson
155 wRC+, 25 Fielding Runs above average, 12.1% BB, 13.0% K, .389 OBP, .406 wOBA, 116.3 WAR
5) Clemente
129 wRC+, 204 Fielding Runs above average, 6.1% BB, 12.0% K, .359 OBP, .366 wOBA, 91.3 WAR
I guess, to be fair, I'll argue my points after you. Good luck.
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Only MLB stats (Negro League stats don't count)
Stats only in first argument please.
Devil Within
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That many people changed their minds? Interesting.
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I'll post an argument soon. Finishing class now.
rayswinwildcard
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Take your time.
Devil Within
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Also, are you defining a Right Fielder as someone who played a majority of their games in right field or just for a few seasons?
rayswinwildcard
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Majority.
Devil Within
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And no assumed Roiders please. I'd like to not make it an argument about steroids.
Devil Within
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He is the only reason I made that rule. Well, him and Werth.
Devil Within
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I'll bite, just WHO did you left for someone to argue with. You took the "who's who" of RF and listed them pretty much in order. So, are you looking for changes to the list or changes to the order of the list?
OlderthanDirt
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Who IS left to argue? Bad grammar.....NOW GO TO MY ROOM!
OlderthanDirt
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I only have one guy and I would get voted against due to his off field activities
OlderthanDirt
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I didn't check. I just chose what I saw as the best 5. If it's inarguable then I hope no one argues and it just dies.
If someone thinks they can argue it then have at it.
Devil Within
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Off the field antics don't matter, unless it's about steroids.
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Bah, arguing the same people but in a different order doesn't make for a very good debate. I mean, statistics sure as hell don't show what kind of defensive fielder a player was nor does it show arm strength. Hell, Clemente had a Howitzer for an arm and was smooth as glass on the defensive side.
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Although he wasn't just a right fielder, Stan Musial played a lot of games in right. If that counts he comes in 2nd or 3rd.
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In that case, why did neither of you have Pete Rose on the list?
OlderthanDirt
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Not primarily a RF.
Devil Within
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It doesn't.
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That's hogwash. Pete was an outfielder first. Did not matter which position with Pete. That's one of the things that made him SO GREAT. He was not a liability to the team IF the manager put him somewhere else. 500+ games started at RF does include him on the list. I guess just not in your little world.
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