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doodlebuglc24 said 10/03, 10:40 AM
I'll just give my players first and a brief explanation. More detail on the exact reasoning why I took one of these guys over someone else will come in my 2nd argument. (This is the batting order as well)

1. Ichiro LF - I know it's not his natural position but he can play anywhere out there.

2. Placido Polanco 2B - Best #2 hitter in the game. Great Fielder as well.

3. Albert Pujols 1B - .327, 32 HR, and 103 RBI in a "down year."

4. Alex Rodriguez 3B - Best player of this generation.

5. David Ortiz DH - Big Papi can still rake. As clutch as it gets.

6. Vladimir Guerrero RF - Vlad can still rake. Need at least one violent swinger.

7. Curtis Granderson CF - Do everything guy. Great defensive player.

8. Victor Martinez C - Best catcher in the game. Need someone to hit a sac fly after Granderson triples.

9. Jose Reyes SS - Most electric player in baseball. Reyes down here is like having another leadoff hitter.

There ya have it...that lineup has everything...speed, power, average, walks...you name it, we got it!

thejetstolehome: hiatus? said 10/03, 10:54 AM
1. Ichrio, CF--he's gotta stay in his natural position. a .396 OBP this year is great, obvious "table setter."
2. Carl Crawford, LF--needs to cut down on his strikeouts (.355 OBP isn't too bad, though) but has a lot of pop from the 2 hole.
3. Chase Utley, 2B--hands down the best second baseman in baseball. .332/.410/.566/.976 is perfect for a number 3 hitter
4. A-Rod, 3B. come on.
5. Pujols, 1B. another no brainer
6. Carlos Pena, DH. just to change it up a bit. .627 SLG this year is crazy.
7. Magglio Ordonez, RF. another just to change, but it's not a bad change at all. out of his mind this year: .363/.434/.595 is wonderful.
8. Russell Martin, C. offensively pretty much equal to Martinez but 21 steals is an added bonus.
9. Hanley Ramriez, SS. higher average, higher obp, higher slugging than Reyes.

doodlebuglc24 said 10/03, 11:22 AM
2B ??? Polanco fits is the most perfect #2 hitter anyone could ask for. He almost never strikes out, he advances the runner to 2nd base almost every time, and does all that while hitting .341 which is 9 points higher than Utley. Might not have the power numbers that Utley does (although not a large difference) but he makes up for it by doing exactly what a #2 hitter is supposed to. Also, Polanco made 0 errors this year! 0! That???s unheard of playing in 141 games with no errors.
OF ??? You put Crawford in over Granderson. When it comes to hitting it???s somewhat of a push???the difference for me comes in the field. Granderson was the best defensive CF in the game this year without question. He made a ridiculous amount of spectacular plays, had 10 OF assists, and saved a number of games with his defense. Nod to Curtis.
OF ??? You put Mags over Vlad. Ordonez had a great year and believe me as a Tiger???s fan I???d love to put him in there. But Vlad has been one of the 3 most consistent hitters of the past 10 years. In his 10 full seasons he had season averages of .325 Average, 36 HR, and 117 RBI???s. I???ll take those numbers (and that arm) over just about anyone.

thejetstolehome: hiatus? said 10/03, 11:36 AM
I left Granderson out because I feel it's important to have guys play their natural positions. Ichrio is a better hitter than Granderson and is right on par with him fielding wise. I chose Crawford becuase of his speed and the fact that he is one of the finer fielding left fielders in Major League Baseball. Granderson may have the higher slugging percentage but that comes from his triples in spacious Comerica Park. Their OBPs are much closer and I'd rather put Crawford in the 2 spot than Granderson in the 7th (as an aside, he should not be batting leadoff for the Tigers, rather 5th and the same goes for Sizemore in Cleveland, but I digress...).

Polanco may have a higher average but Utley's slugging percentage is .108 points higher and his on base percentage is .22 points higher. Polanco's had a great year but Utley's is still better and his fielding is still pretty solid. He's also attempting more plays due to his 5.01 RF compared to Polanco's 4.89.

I more or less agree with Vlad but I just wanted to change things up a bit. I think this year is a showcase of what Mags can do when he is healthy. I don't think he's a .360 hitter but his OBP and SLG can definitely continue to be

doodlebuglc24 said 10/03, 12:56 PM
Natural Position? Ichiro has played RF and CF extensively in the Majors already...so what would you consider his "natural position" to be? I would say flat-out he's simply an outfielder who can play any of the 3. Granderson has a better arm than Crawford and fields his position better. He also covers more ground...have to in Comerica.

My argument for Polanco is simply that he is the absolute best #2 hitter in the Majors. Hands down. I gave you the power numbers of Utley. But you can find a better #3 hitter than Utley, you can???t find a better #2 hitter than Polanco. Advantage Polanco. As for the fielding???0 errors in 141 games. Advantage Polanco.

As for the other 3 positions.
C ??? I looked at Martin but Victor is still better offensively and with the way Victor improved his defense this year, he became the best all-around catcher in the Majors.
SS ??? Reyes is simply the most electric player in baseball.
DH ??? Pena had a career year. Despite that career year, Papi???s numbers were still better. Big Papi is clutch, he???s become consistent, and more of a threat at the plate.

thejetstolehome: hiatus? said 10/03, 03:31 PM
Reyes may be 'electric' (I hate that damn adjective) but Ramirez has better numbers, save for steals. Ramriez > Reyes.

Utley may have more errors but again, look at RF. he's attempting to make plays on balls that Polanco can't even get to. As for a better #2 hitter, there's a case for Derek Jeter. As an aside, Utley's numbers in the 2 spot for his career: .329/.393/.564. Polanco: .305/.348/.417

Hitting wise, Martinez and Martin are about the same and both play stellar defense. It's a wash.

I'd agree with Ortiz but I'm a) just going on this year (except for my comparsin above) and Pena had a better year. Both are good choices.

Granderson has a better arm becuase he's in CF and must have a better arm. I choose Ichiro over Granderson becuase, well, Ichiro is a better player than Curtis Granderson. Both are ridiculous on defense and very solid on offense. Ichiro would be a waste in LF, where the worst fielder usually goes.

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i'll be leaving for class in about 45 minutes and won't be back til around 3 then i have a film class from 6-9 so if i take a while, i'm sorry and that's why. good luck.

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