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- 09/23/2011, 03:02PM ET
Vikings Vs. Lions who ya got?
devils knight said 09/23, 03:02 PM
I am going with Matt Staffords arm and that sick D line that has helped procure a league leading 8 turnovers.
I'm not too sure of what is going on with the Vikes but it sure looks as though Andy Reid and Mike Shannahan knew that Mcnabb had nothing left. And he sure as hell not gonna start all of the sudden against the best D line in the league.
The Lions are averaging 421 yards a game while the Vikes are averaging a paltry 292. Stafford has thrown at least 3 td;s in both games while Mcnabb has just one td in both games.
You feel different? lets do it then.
PatsFan21 said 09/23, 06:30 PM
The Vikings are going to win this game.
Why? Because they have to. The Vikings know they can start 0-3 and have to win. You know AP and Jared Allen will have this team fired up to play. They are going to want it more.
The Vikings can win this game if they control the ball with AP. Just last week, the Lions allowed over 6 yards a carry to Dexter McCluster at home! That said, imagine what AP can do in Minnesota against the defense. I know Suh is amazing but the Vikings have a very good interior O-Line and averages over 5 yards a carry at home.
McNabb doesn't have to win this game for the Vikes. He just has to keep them in it and he has traditionally done very well against Detroit. McNabb averages over 315 yards per game with 2 TDs in games against the Lions. He has only thrown ONE career INT against them.
But it doesn't stop there. Matthew Stafford has struggled mightily against the Vikings. His QB rating against them doesn't even make it to 70. And remember, Stafford is just 1-7 in his career on the road.
The Vikings have started slow but will knock off the Lions in this game.
devils knight said 09/24, 02:54 PM
Mcnabb averages 315 yards per game against the lions huh? Well that is a thing of the past with a different team. Totally irrelevent. Not even the Lions are the same team as when they last met.
But it doesn't stop there. Matthew Stafford has struggled mightily against the Vikings. His QB rating against them doesn't even make it to 70.
Wow, you say that like there are just so many lion/vikes matchups to go on. What like 2? If that? So Stafford is not allowed to mature and get better like every other QB in the league. He has stay at his rookie performance level? Well I guess he does to make your point valid. In reality he is tied with the league leader in TD's and is doing it seemingly effortlessly.
The Lions Secondary has taken a lot of flack (pre-season) But like I have been saying that front 7 well makes up for there lack of studs in the secondary...so much so that they have 8 turnovers in two games.
Sorry the Vikes and Cowboys get smacked up flatbush style by that that ever improving front 7! They still aint got Fairly back yet. I'm not sure if he is playing tomorrow just thought I would add that in there.
PatsFan21 said 09/24, 05:37 PM
How is McNabb's career success against the Lions completley irrelevant? Remember this is the same Lions secondary that got torched all year last year. They're starting Eric Wright and Chris Houston at CB. If McNabb can find the groove he has had in the past against the Lions, he can have success.
Stafford has played the Vikings twice. He has been brutal both times and has he improved? Yes, but Leslie Frazier is known for his defense and confusing a quarterback. Stafford is still young remember and in tough ride enviroments like this one, he will have mishaps. The kid isn't Brady or Manning yet.
You fail to address the issue of the Vikings ground game. Peterson has dominated the Lions in his career, even against Suh. With Hutchinson and Co. on that O-Line in the safety of the home dome, the Vikings can control the clock.
If they can't stop McCluster, how can they stop AP?
Let's talk some defense. The Vikings have held two very good offenses, Tampa and San Diego to 24 points. The Lions shut down the Chiefs, but that was the Chiefs. The Vikings at home have a good chance to slow down the Lions offense.
devils knight said 09/24, 08:23 PM
The Lions will win because the Vikings SUCK! Thats all I need to know.
You say the Lions secondary sucks yet they lead the league in interceptions.
You insinuate the Lions D is so-so yet they have the most turnovers in the league.
You keep chirping about AP what about MEGATRON? 4 td's in two games against what was last year...good defences.
Stafford has thrown more yards and td's in incomplete games where he was hurt then Mcnabb threw in the whole game in week 1.
Last but not least, using stats prior to this season against the Lions is just plain stupid. This team no longer sucks. It is well rounded. They have a dangerous passing game with the second maybe best receiver in the league. They have the best D line in the league and they are not even fully manned yet. But most important they have not given up a sack yet! Yes thats right Zero sacks! Stafford is effortlessly getting that ball to the open receiver. And when that receiver is MEGATRON I will take that over a sorry Vikes team any day. Screw stats, these lions pass the sniff test and the visual test.
PatsFan21 said 09/25, 04:41 PM
Your true homerism shows in that argument.
No need to be defensive or angry.
The Lions did win this game, as they should have but obviously, the Vikings do not suck as you say.
The Vikes controlled the ball with AP, as I said they would and McNabb was decent at home.
If the Vikings didn't shoot themselves with mistakes, they win this game.
Anyways, congrats to the Lions on a tough road win.
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Lions.. 38-28
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4 peterson td's? lol
devils knight
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easy win attempt ^^
PatsFan21
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Really? According to most people on this site the Lions still suck. DJ swears up and down that the vikes got this one. Why dont you accept the challenge?
devils knight
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you know what? fine your on
PatsFan21
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You give AP too much credit. How's he gonna run against that wall the Lions call a D-line? Everyone knows we can only run the ball, so Det will stack the box and force McNabb to burn them deep, which he cant cuz we dont have a deep threat.
Lions 34-17
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you're being to generous for the vikings. 119 to -25. Stafford goes 17 for 17 with 17 tds. CALLIN IT.
OSUforLIFE
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VIKINGS SUCK!
sorry, could not help myself.
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Vikes win the game.
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Bears.
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Inferiority Complex Group, FN
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Agreed.
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Stafford is fantasy gold, sure hope he stays healthy. AP can't carry the vikes, Lions will absolutely kill them.
Thorn19
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Thanks to the three people who voted already, completley based off opinion.
Vote on arguments people
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Did you just snooker pf into following dj's advice? Now that's funny.
Thorn19
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Good luck with that.
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You are correct, solid gold to be sure.
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"They are going to want it more."
-- That is a pretty weak point, do you really think a Vikings team that was two games away from the Super Bowl and is currently in rebuilding mode is going to want it more than a team that went 0-16 in the past could of years, has been a cellar dweller for the past however many years, and have not been 3-0 since 1980? That is an invalid point, both teams will want it very much so regardless.
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Although, PatsFan, you bring up some good points on how this will be a good game.
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Vikings lose. next week start Ponder and lose again! to finish behind Detroit Or the Bears for last place in the NFC north.
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