- 09/27/2011, 11:12PM ET
DJRoxalot said 09/27, 11:12 PM
List picks 1st, argue 2nd and 3rd. At least 2-3 changes, PCH.
New Orleans@Jacksonville=New Orleans
PatsFan21 said 09/28, 02:20 PM
My first change is Detroit over Dallas.
While I think Dallas is more talented than Detroit, I think injuries are going to kill Dallas.
Miles Austin is not expected to play and while Dez Bryant did return from injury he was clearly not at 100%.
Tony Romo still has the punctured lung and that could become a factor in the game. Considering the fact that the Lions have one of the best DT's in football, in Suh, and Dallas has the worst starting center in football. Romo is going to get hit hard.
Detroit is clicking on all cylinders now and they have a ton of momentum. They believe in themselves now. After roaring back to beat the Vikes, they are very confident.
I'll take Detroit.
My second change is, Panthers over Bears.
I think this Bears team is in deep ****.
Simply comparing scores against the Packers, the Panthers did much better and were starting a game with only 1 game of NFL experience. That guy now has two 400+ yard passing games.
Don't expect the Bears to stop them, Chicago is 26th in the NFL in passing yards allowed.
The Bears cannot protect the passer and Cutler has already taken a beating.
I got the Panthers.
DJRoxalot said 09/28, 03:34 PM
Dallas is a much better overall team than the Vikings, who made some horrible coaching mistakes and decisions to allow Detroit a chance to win the game.
DeMarcus Ware is a beast. He will be a matchup nightmare for the Lions. Jared Allen was able to get to Stafford last week. The Lions OL is not that great. TB and KC was just not able to pressure him.
Detroit's run defese is allowing:
113ypg, 21st in the NFL. In just 68 carries.
I expect Dallas to be able to run the ball. And that will open up the passing game for Romo.
The Bears allow 277 yards, because teams have thrown 122 times. As opposed to running the ball just 72 times. Ypa is a better stat to jude a team's pass defense. they have allowed 7.3ypa, 12th in the NFL.
The Bears have an excellent pass rush. 8 sacks, tied for 11th in the NFL. They will throw all kinds of defensive formations at Cam.
Carolina is 25th against the run.
I know the Bears are 31st in running the ball, but they have thrown the ball much more because they have had to rally. They have only run the ball 51 times and just 24 times the last 2 games combined.
PatsFan21 said 09/28, 05:40 PM
Detroit has a better line than you give them credit for. KC and TB both have solid pass rushers like Tamba Hali and Adrian Clayborn. They struggled last week but with a week of gameplanning, they will have different ways to stop Ware.
Dallas running the ball? Good luck with that. Detroit has a great defensive line and with Suh lining up against Dallas' awful center, there will be no holes.
The Bears can throw all the packages they want at Cam. If Cam can throw for 400 yards against the Woodson, Williams, and the Packers, he can do it against the Bears.
Cam's legs could also be a problem. He has shown the ability to run already in the NFL and the Bears have an older linebacker core. Can Briggs and Urlacher contain Newton?
The Bears cannot run the ball at all. Forte is routinely getting stuffed and now they face an even better D-Line. This game is going to come down to whose line plays better and the Panthers have a better O-Line and the Bears O-Line just sucks.
Cutler won't have enough time to get the ball out and make plays. WIth him under pressure, he will self destruct again and the Bears will fall apart.
DJRoxalot said 09/28, 08:03 PM
Detroit's OL? The Vikings had 5 sacks total vs the Lions.
Right DE Allen dominated RT Gosdar Cherilus, sacking Stafford 3 times. Right DE Jason Hatcher is not as good as Allen, but DeMarcus Ware will be blitzing from the right side. Stafford is going to be in trouble vs the Dallas defense.
LT Jeff Backus allowed 2 sacks as well. The Dallas pass rush has 13 sacks, 1st in the League. It is a much better overall defense than the Vikings.
Detroit is 21st against the run. They have a very good DL, but it's more of a pass rushing DL. Like, I said they are allowing 5.0ypc. It looks like Felix Jones will not miss any practice time. Dallas will be effective against the Lions.
Chicago vs Carolina
The Bears contained Michael Vick last season (9 carries, 44 yards). Newton is a fine player, but 3.9ypc isn't in same class as Vick as a runner.
The Bears have struggled to run against the Falcons (20th against the run), Saints (9th), and Packers (1st). Carolina's run D isn't as good as NO or GB.
Carolina's defense is 23rd in sacks (5). I expect the Jay Cutler who shredded the Falcons defense. Carolina allows 9.7ypa, last in the League.
PatsFan21 said 09/29, 11:23 AM
Dallas gave up 5 field goal drives against Rex Grossman and almost gave up 24 points to Alex Smith.
This week, they won't get so lucky.
Matt Stafford is a much better quarterback and has many more weapons than both of those guys. Calvin Johnson has 6 TDs through 3 games and will wreck havoc against the Dallas secondary.
You fail to address the problem of Dallas' O-Line. Romo is already injured and the best DT in the game is going to man handle the worst center in the game. That's a big problem.
As for Carolina and Chicago,
Tell me how last season is relevant to this debate. Please. Go for it. Because I promise you, last season is completely irrelevant to this debate.
Did the Panthers have a chance against the Pack last year? No. But they almost won this year. Then, the Bears got beat by the Pack a lot worse than Carolina.
Really? The Panthers don't have a defense near that of the Atlanta or the Saints?
The Panthers are 17th in the NFL, AHEAD of the Falcons AND the Saints.
Check your facts before you give out crap.
Carolina will take care of the Bears in Chicago.
Detroit beats Dallas.
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