Views
1930
Comments
31
  • 09/29/2011, 03:24AM ET

The Yankees lost on purpose to spite the Red Rox

J-Business (78-66-19) vs Marlins Fan (156-78-31)
0
Votes
18
Votes
0
Votes
18
Votes


The Yankees lost on purpose the the devil Rays to prevent the Red Sox from getting in the playoffs.

I have absolutely no way to verify or prove this claim but wouldn't it be cool and the ultimate gut punch to their rival.

Yankees-Red Sox is arguably the greatest rivalry in sports and what better way to screw them over than to give up a 7-nothing lead in the 8th and keep them out of the playoffs.

I don't have any proof and my eyes may have been lying but wasn't that the ghost of Steinbrenner giving the Devil Rays signals on the Yankees pitching?

I know people are saying "the Yankees match up better against the Red Sox".
Whatever. If recent history has shown us anything, it's that you can throw out the regular season records and numbers when it comes down to these two teams.

Even if the Yankees go on to lose in the post-season, I'm sure they'll take some pleasure knowing that their hated rival lost an 8 game lead in September.

Once again, I have NO proof whatsoever to support my claim.
But wouldn't it be cool!


It would be pretty cool, I agree.

But it would also be pretty stupid, and I think the Yankees are more focused on winning a World Series than kicking some dirt in the Red Sox' faces.

Think about it; between the Rays and the Red Sox, which one of these teams would've been a tougher opponenet for the Yankees?

The Rays, of course.

First of all, the Sox have been playing some bad baseball lately. They just finished the biggest September choke-job in MLB history, missing out on the playoffs after having a 9 game lead on September 3rd.

If Boston had made the playoffs, they would've had zero momentum. The Yankees would've had a major advantage based off that alone.



And more importantly, the Rays have a much better starting rotation than the Sox do.

Beckett, Lester, and Lackey have all pitched poorly lately, and even if they were on their game, the Yankees still would've had a better chance beating them than David Price, James Sheilds, and Jeremy Hellickson.

Tampa Bay finished the 2011 regular season with a team ERA of just 3.58, 8th best in MLB.

The Red Sox team ERA was 4.20, 22nd best.



Also, the Yanks led TB 7-0 in this game...


If you didn't recognize this in my argument, the TD was basically made in jest. I think we'd all agree that the Yankees did not intentionally "throw" this game to keep the Red Sox out of the playoffs.

I don't recall seeing anyone throwing underhand pitches and I don't recall the Yankees switching to swinging with one hand after the 8th inning.

In fact, the main issue here is what would a Yankees player, fan and management prefer: a playoffs that includes their hated rival, or one without?

I'm not a Yankees fan but as an Eagles fan, I personally felt a sense of joy seeing the Giants missing the playoffs, regardless of how the Eagles performed.
At the very least, it was a small victory.

Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, Yankees fans will have something laugh about to Red Sox fans.
Sort of like how Phillies fans had over the Mets a few years ago

Also you're point about the Red Sox being an easy team for the Red Sox is rather irrelevant since the Yankees went 6-12 against the Red Sox.


Well... you have reversed course and are now agreeing with me, so I'm not sure how to carry on with the debating.


Anyhoo...

Yes, the Yankees went 6-12 against Boston this year. But that's including the early part of the season, when the Sox were actually playing well.

As of August 7th, the Sox were 10-2 against the Yankees.

But then things went downhill, fast. For the rest of the year, the Sox were just 2-4 against the Yankees.

As you can see, when Boston was playing well, they were able to beat the Yankees. But as wel all know, the Sox haven't played well for a while, as their record against the Yankees (and the rest of the league) shows.


I agree with you in a sense, that even if the Yankees exit the playoffs early, they'll still have had a more successful season than the Sox, and that might be some kind of minor consolation to them.

But I doubt it.

The Yankees are one of the most successful franchises in American sports, and they are surely a competetive team. I can't see any way they would prefer a loss over a victory, even if it meant the Sox missing the playoffs.

The Yankees lost, but not on purpose. They are competitors.


I don't see how I agreed with you, when i stated the initial argument. But I guess you win.


First you say the Yanks lost on purpose to spite the Sox by keeping them out of the playoffs.

Then in the second argument you say we'd all agree that the Yanks didn't throw the game to keep the Sox out of the playoffs.


Trying to feel me with the old switcheroo...


Anyway, not much to say here.


Enjoy the MLB playoffs, everybody!!

September 29, 2011  03:29 AM ET

What?

Comment #2 has been removed
September 29, 2011  04:05 AM ET

I hope so. Awesome.

Comment #4 has been removed
September 29, 2011  07:26 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Wouldn't jumping out to a 7-0 lead kinda indicate that the Yanks were trying to win?

Wouldn't giving that lead up in 2 innings indicate the opposite?

September 29, 2011  07:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Wouldn't giving that lead up in 2 innings indicate the opposite?

I think you are right. The Red Sox were definitely trying to lose. If they were trying there is no way they would have lost 5 out of the last 7 to the last place Orioles, or managed to lose a game with a one run lead and two outs and two strikes with no runners on base.

September 29, 2011  08:02 AM ET

I don't think you score 7 runs in order to lose...if you can score 7 runs a gam at will, then you should have the best record in baseball.

September 29, 2011  09:12 AM ET

Yeah, if they were trying to lose, going up 7-0 and banking on the fact that the Rays can score 7 runs in 2 innings off of anyone is risky. Girardi started the regulars, got up 7-0, then used his bullpen wisely considering he has to have them ready for Friday. I think the Rays just wanted it that badly, and that's why they came back, not because the Yanks lost on purpose.

September 29, 2011  09:20 AM ET

Nope. Yankees protecting best players for playoffs...a win doesn't improve their playoff position. As much as I'm NOT a fan of the Bombers....not this time. AND, if BoSox won a bit more often in September, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

September 29, 2011  09:25 AM ET

They led 7-0 and the Rays came back. When they put in the Proctologist you just knew things would turn out shi*ty. Boston's out so who cares?!

September 29, 2011  11:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Nope. Yankees protecting best players for playoffs...a win doesn't improve their playoff position. As much as I'm NOT a fan of the Bombers....not this time. AND, if BoSox won a bit more often in September, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

This.

Any sox fan stating Yankees blew it, is just trying to find a reason. Sox did this to themselves.

September 29, 2011  11:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

This. Any sox fan stating Yankees blew it, is just trying to find a reason. Sox did this to themselves.

You know its funny, before 2004, I would be having a field day with this... but this is the true first choking incident for the Sox since '04.. and that has taken a lot of the energy out of it.

September 29, 2011  02:48 PM ET

WTF happening to Beckett lately?

September 29, 2011  03:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

You know its funny, before 2004, I would be having a field day with this... but this is the true first choking incident for the Sox since '04.. and that has taken a lot of the energy out of it.

I guess that's why this doesn't bother me all that much.
Don't get me wrong, it stings, but as a whole, it's not that bad. That's why I was wound up for the sings this am and started that non argument td. Just kind of said 'bring it on'.

Now if it starts a trend? All bets are off!

September 29, 2011  03:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I guess that's why this doesn't bother me all that much. Don't get me wrong, it stings, but as a whole, it's not that bad. That's why I was wound up for the sings this am and started that non argument td. Just kind of said 'bring it on'. Now if it starts a trend? All bets are off!

Sings=zings. Dang auto correct....

September 29, 2011  03:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Why wouldn't New York want Boston in the playoffs?The Sox would've been the easiest team for the Yanks to beat, because their rotation is weak and they had no momentum whatsoever.The Rays have a great pitching staff, and if they face NY they'll pose a much bigger threat than Boston would've.

Plus, why face a hot team when you can play a cold one.

September 29, 2011  03:56 PM ET

Voted ===>>

September 29, 2011  03:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Plus, why face a hot team when you can play a cold one.

My view is that you shouldn't worry about who you might be playing in the ALCS, because first off, you have to get to the ALCS, and secondly, if you want to win the WS, you have to be able to beat any team in any series.

September 29, 2011  07:40 PM ET

I'm sorry, Business, but I watched that game (along with the other two games), and the Yankees lost to a resilient Rays team that would not give up. The Yanks even had most of their regulars start that game, and you can't point to Girardi taking out the starters because: 1) They had a big lead. 2) There was no reason to keep the starters in the whole game.

If you want to point fingers, point at the Red Sox for losing every crucial game they needed in September. The Rays just had one of those crazy rally's that teams will have, and ended up winning the game. Rays=Clutch; Sox= Not Clutch.

And if we want to predict who the Yankees would rather face in a potential ALCS match, I think they would pick the slumping Red Sox over the red-hot Rays. Just a humble opinion from a poor Dodgers fan. :(

 
September 29, 2011  08:29 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Yeah, if they were trying to lose, going up 7-0 and banking on the fact that the Rays can score 7 runs in 2 innings off of anyone is risky. Girardi started the regulars, got up 7-0, then used his bullpen wisely considering he has to have them ready for Friday. I think the Rays just wanted it that badly, and that's why they came back, not because the Yanks lost on purpose.

The Yankees used 11 pitchers in that game. 5 of them threw less than an inning. The last one threw more innings than any of the others. You call that "using the bullpen wisely"? I call it stupidity. If that game had gone several more innings they'd have had to use starters out of the pen even with an expanded roster.

Comment

Remember to keep your posts clean. Profanity will get filtered, and offensive comments will be removed.


Leaderboard

  Fan W L T Win %
1 fvkasm2x 193 58 12 75.7%
2 7#bag _ Com 997 338 74 73.4%
3 HOOTZ 33 14 9 67.0%
4 Marlins Fan 156 78 31 64.7%
5 Argos. 184 101 29 63.2%
6 Goodell: Fannation Savior 644 430 71 59.3%
7 J-Business 78 66 19 53.7%
8 Highway... 175 852 64 19.0%

The Si.com Cover Hub Go to the Cover Hub

Truth & Rumors

MOST POPULAR

  1. 1
    Clippers, Warriors exchange barbs
    Views
    715
    Comments
    431
  2. 2
    Time to penalize NHL's perennial losers?
    Views
    833
    Comments
    267
  3. 3
    Report: Raiders to release Terrelle Pryor on Monday
    Views
    1218
    Comments
    59
  4. 4
    Will NFL owners blackball Donald Trump?
    Views
    1015
    Comments
    54
  5. 5
    Packers lovers have own dating site
    Views
    937
    Comments
    43

Most Active Users

Comments + Blog Posts + Throwdowns

  1. 1
    Robataille
  2. 2
    ~Mother-Marge~
  3. 3
    TxHeat
  4. 4
    buddhaa.luck
  5. 5
    Deep Creek

Message Boards

  1. NBA > General NBA

    Toronto Raptors: No time to…
    Views
    39
    Replies
    2
  2. MLB > Seattle Mariners

    HOUSTON (5-14) @ SEA (7-11) …
    Views
    6
    Replies
    2

Blogs