- 09/29/2011, 03:24AM ET
J-Business said 09/29, 04:30 AM
The Yankees lost on purpose the the devil Rays to prevent the Red Sox from getting in the playoffs.
I have absolutely no way to verify or prove this claim but wouldn't it be cool and the ultimate gut punch to their rival.
Yankees-Red Sox is arguably the greatest rivalry in sports and what better way to screw them over than to give up a 7-nothing lead in the 8th and keep them out of the playoffs.
I don't have any proof and my eyes may have been lying but wasn't that the ghost of Steinbrenner giving the Devil Rays signals on the Yankees pitching?
I know people are saying "the Yankees match up better against the Red Sox".
Whatever. If recent history has shown us anything, it's that you can throw out the regular season records and numbers when it comes down to these two teams.
Even if the Yankees go on to lose in the post-season, I'm sure they'll take some pleasure knowing that their hated rival lost an 8 game lead in September.
Once again, I have NO proof whatsoever to support my claim.
But wouldn't it be cool!
Mrlns Fn said 09/29, 04:46 AM
It would be pretty cool, I agree.
But it would also be pretty stupid, and I think the Yankees are more focused on winning a World Series than kicking some dirt in the Red Sox' faces.
Think about it; between the Rays and the Red Sox, which one of these teams would've been a tougher opponenet for the Yankees?
The Rays, of course.
First of all, the Sox have been playing some bad baseball lately. They just finished the biggest September choke-job in MLB history, missing out on the playoffs after having a 9 game lead on September 3rd.
If Boston had made the playoffs, they would've had zero momentum. The Yankees would've had a major advantage based off that alone.
And more importantly, the Rays have a much better starting rotation than the Sox do.
Beckett, Lester, and Lackey have all pitched poorly lately, and even if they were on their game, the Yankees still would've had a better chance beating them than David Price, James Sheilds, and Jeremy Hellickson.
Tampa Bay finished the 2011 regular season with a team ERA of just 3.58, 8th best in MLB.
The Red Sox team ERA was 4.20, 22nd best.
Also, the Yanks led TB 7-0 in this game...
J-Business said 09/29, 10:07 AM
If you didn't recognize this in my argument, the TD was basically made in jest. I think we'd all agree that the Yankees did not intentionally "throw" this game to keep the Red Sox out of the playoffs.
I don't recall seeing anyone throwing underhand pitches and I don't recall the Yankees switching to swinging with one hand after the 8th inning.
In fact, the main issue here is what would a Yankees player, fan and management prefer: a playoffs that includes their hated rival, or one without?
I'm not a Yankees fan but as an Eagles fan, I personally felt a sense of joy seeing the Giants missing the playoffs, regardless of how the Eagles performed.
At the very least, it was a small victory.
Regardless of what happens in the playoffs, Yankees fans will have something laugh about to Red Sox fans.
Sort of like how Phillies fans had over the Mets a few years ago
Also you're point about the Red Sox being an easy team for the Red Sox is rather irrelevant since the Yankees went 6-12 against the Red Sox.
Mrlns Fn said 09/30, 02:20 AM
Well... you have reversed course and are now agreeing with me, so I'm not sure how to carry on with the debating.
Yes, the Yankees went 6-12 against Boston this year. But that's including the early part of the season, when the Sox were actually playing well.
As of August 7th, the Sox were 10-2 against the Yankees.
But then things went downhill, fast. For the rest of the year, the Sox were just 2-4 against the Yankees.
As you can see, when Boston was playing well, they were able to beat the Yankees. But as wel all know, the Sox haven't played well for a while, as their record against the Yankees (and the rest of the league) shows.
I agree with you in a sense, that even if the Yankees exit the playoffs early, they'll still have had a more successful season than the Sox, and that might be some kind of minor consolation to them.
But I doubt it.
The Yankees are one of the most successful franchises in American sports, and they are surely a competetive team. I can't see any way they would prefer a loss over a victory, even if it meant the Sox missing the playoffs.
The Yankees lost, but not on purpose. They are competitors.
J-Business said 09/30, 11:13 AM
I don't see how I agreed with you, when i stated the initial argument. But I guess you win.
Mrlns Fn said 09/30, 10:15 PM
First you say the Yanks lost on purpose to spite the Sox by keeping them out of the playoffs.
Then in the second argument you say we'd all agree that the Yanks didn't throw the game to keep the Sox out of the playoffs.
Trying to feel me with the old switcheroo...
Anyway, not much to say here.
Enjoy the MLB playoffs, everybody!!
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