- 10/03/2011, 12:05PM ET
4 sure said 10/03, 12:05 PM
With Qb rating if 124.6 and 1,325 yrds 12 Td's and leading Green Bay to a 4-0 record. Rodgers is the best Qb in the NFL.
DJRoxalot said 10/03, 05:47 PM
Tom Brady is a better QB right now than Rodgers. They are the 2 best QB's in the League, but Brady is just a tad better.
He is completing 66.9% of his passes (6th in the NFL) for 388ypg (1st, despite having just 226 yards vs Oakland), 9.53ypa (1st), 13 TD's (1st) with a 111.3 Passer Rating (2nd).
He averages more ypg, ypa and has more TD's. Rodgers has a higher %, PR and fewer INT's.
And for all the talk of Rodgers being a mobile QB, he has been sacked 7 times. Brady has been sacked just 4 times.
Brady does all this despite having 1 WR to rely on in Wes Welker. Rodgers has Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, and James Jones to rely on.
4 sure said 10/03, 11:05 PM
Your arguments make my point even better. All of Brady's stats are great................ Brady had more ints in one game than Rodgers has had in 4 games. Brady 5 ints Rodgers 2 ints. The Bills game was the game that Brady had a BAD GAME. Brady's 4 ints in that game lead to the Pats down fall in that game. One of the ints was returned for a 27 yrd Td. Oh and Welker is the #1 receiver in the NFL Jennings is #6 and the Pats Gronkowski is #21 and Nelson is Tied for 22 so the argument that GB has better receviers is not true by the stats. One bad game, by Brady and the Pats are 3-1 no bad games by Rodgers and Green Bay is undefeated.
DJRoxalot said 10/04, 10:51 AM
Brady had a bad game, it happens.
"Oh and Welker is the #1 receiver in the NFL Jennings is #6 and the Pats Gronkowski is #21 and Nelson is Tied for 22 so the argument that GB has better receivers is not true by the stats."
Welker has 40 catches for 616 yards, the next closest WR on NE is Deion Branch. Has 16 catches for 226 yards. That is a huge discrepancy. Teams do not have to worry about Branch as much as they do with Welker.
GB has more depth on offense. Rodgers can spread the ball around to Jennings (on pace for 132 catches), Nelson (on pace for 84 catches). The offense has incorporated Randall Cobb (21ypc) into the offense, he has taken touches away from Jones and Driver.
Now, you mentioned Gronkowski and I glad you did. He is a TE and the Packers have Jermichael Finley. He isn't exactly chopped liver, he is on pace for 72 catches.
4 sure said 10/04, 12:23 PM
Going back to your first argument Brady is completing 66.9 % of his passes, with the #1 receiver(Welker) and Rodgers is completing 73.0% of his passes to the # 6 Receiver, this is a better percentage for RODGERS. Also Rodgers Qb rating is 124.6 wich is higher than the 111.3 that BRADY has which would make RODGERS # 1 in that catagory. After 4 games GB is the highest scoring team in the NFL. In the 4 games Rodgers has faced 2 teams (N.O. & Chi) that were in the playoffs last year. Brady has yet to face a team that has won more 9 games last year or a team that made the playoffs last year. Yes Bready had a BAD GAME as you say, and it happens but RODGERS has yet to have a bad game. BRADY lost to a team that that was on a 15 game losing streak to them. This is not the first time BRADY had 4 ints against the Bills he did it in 2007.
After 4 games N.E. is 3-1 and his BAD GAME, with 4 ints as you say is what lead to the break down against the Bills.
This is the bottom line. The Qb is credited with wins & losses, (right or wrong it's how it is)
After 4 games G.B. is undefeated and the highest scoreing team in the NFL. RODGERS has yet to have a bad game.
DJRoxalot said 10/04, 01:37 PM
Passer Rating is an overrated stat.
Especially when you consider Brady averages 57 more ypg passing the ball. And it isn't like the Pats can't run the ball. They are averaging 4.8ypc.
"After 4 games GB is the highest scoring team in the NFL"
You want to talk about the schedule?
The Pats have faced
Miami, 26th in ppg allowed
San Diego, tied for 10th.
Buffalo, tied for 16th
3 of their first 4 on the road.
The Packers have faced
New Orleans, tied for 20th in ppg allowed.
Chicago, tied for 20th
I would say the Pats (tied for 2nd) have had a slightly tougher schedule. Maybe that is why the Packers have scored 3.2 more ppg?
Yeah, that's it.
"After 4 games N.E. is 3-1 and his BAD GAME, with 4 ints as you say is what lead to the break down against the Bills."
Pinning the loss on Brady? The NE defense allowed 369 passing yards and 448 yards total.
He had a tough game against a ball-hawking defense that has 8 INT's, which happens 1st in the NFL.
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