- 10/03/2011, 07:40PM ET
Yankees fan said 10/03, 07:40 PM
I have not been here for very long, but one thing I have noticed is that there are a lot of Boston or New England fans in this place. As a result of this phenomena, I have concluded two things:
1. I must shed some light on these fans
2. I will most certainly lose in a very lopsided fashion on this throwdown, but I like stating my opinion so whether I win or lose will not make a profound impact on me.
My throwdown title says it all; though many sports fans and analysts claim Boston is almighty (even leading ESPN the magazine to dedicate an entire issue to Boston sports, like that's a good business decision....), this is a false belief. The Patriots have never won a superbowl without cheating. They can go 14-2 or 16-0 every year but if they don't win the superbowl, who really cares? The Red Sox needed 86 years (and plenty of juice from David Ortiz, Manny, etc.) to win a meaningful game. The Bruins just won their first Stanley Cup in nearly 40 years. Big whoop. I will give Boston fans the Celtics, that is their one true respectable team. But then again, it's the NBA, so it's not really respectable. And having one good team doesn't mean squat.
DonCorleone said 10/03, 08:27 PM
Boston is the one city in the entire country that is competitive in all four major sports, as well as in the MLS, the past decade. You can't deny this fact.
You didn't really specify clearly why you think Boston is vastly overrated, other than your perception that the Patriots always cheat. "Spygate" was ridiculous, because most of the teams did/do it in one form or another. The Patriots in dominance alone make Boston a sports city.
Bring up the argument that Manny and Ortiz were juiced, but the Sox aren't the only team that had juiced players. Again, all teams, whether we know the players or not, had players on PEDs.
Boston teams won seven titles in the 2000s. This includes at least in one in each of the four major sports.
All four teams from Boston, even with the Sox choke job, are good, and not just one like you said.
I know you're upset that the Cardinals lost to Eli, so I understand why you want to make ridiculous claims. Even with obnoxious Sox fans that sing their "Sweet Caroline" over and over and over again, I still can't fathom to think that Boston is anything less than a sports town.
Yankees fan said 10/04, 09:10 AM
My perception that the Pats always cheat? I never said that. All I said was they haven't won a superbowl without cheating. That means, since they stopped, they have been just like the 30 other teams every year watching the champions celebrate. And yes, I'm upset that the Cardinals lost, but that isn't really relevant to this throwdown. And I never said Boston is a bad sports city, just that they are overrated. They have one clean perennial contending team, and the others either cheat or come up short year after year.
That is all, thank you for your time.
DonCorleone said 10/04, 02:45 PM
You keep repeating yourself that the Patriots cheated, but you haven't clarified exactly how they cheated in each Super Bowl they appeared in. Is this just your opinion without factual proof? I'm assuming you're referring to Spygate. If you know anything about that, you'd know that even the assistant that did a lot of the video tapping between 2000-2002, Walsh, said that there was no videotaping of the Rams walk through before Super Bowl 36.
It is all speculation on your part whether the Pats cheated in each SB they won. So, your speculation is just that.
What your definition of a Sports Town? You make it seem like every team in a city has to win titles year after year and be "clean."
There isn't a city in this country that follow those guidelines, because those guidelines are ridiculous.
My definition is a city that has 3-4 of the major sports, and is competitive on a yearly basis, with titles ranging from conference/leagues titles, to championships. You also have to consider the fans that come out and support their teams. Boston sports, as a whole, probably has one of the top three followings across the country, which is quite impressive.
Don't be a hater.
Yankees fan said 10/04, 04:12 PM
Ok, let me set something straight, I never said many things that you claim I've said.
1. I never said Boston isn't a sports town
2. I never said you need to win titles year after year
3. I never said anything about fans, attendance, or fanbase whatsoever
4. I never said teams from Boston aren't good
All I said in the title, and this has been my argument the whole time, is that Boston sports are overrated. That doesn't mean they aren't a sports town. That doesn't mean they are bad. A team or city can be very good, but still be overrated.
At this point, it doesn't matter what I write, because what you have argued hasn't been in response to either of my prior arguments. Also, the Boston homers will vote based off of the title of the throwdown. I stick my by original statement. People herald this an an invincible sports city. They are not.
DonCorleone said 10/04, 04:44 PM
By saying that they're overrated, you're essentially insinuating that Boston isn't a Sports Town behind the lines.
Ok. So let's say Boston is "overrated." How are sports teams from Boston overrated? How?
You can talk about ESPN's hype, but they do the same thing for Chicago, New York, LOS ANGELES, etc. Every city that has a number of professional teams is always talked about.
You have failed to define what you perceive to be overrated about Boston, because your reasoning that Boston has only one good team (the Celtics) is untrue. I am not going to pull up the amount of regular season, playoff and championship wins the Boston teams have had the past eight years, so you can look that up.
If your sole reasoning that Boston is an overrated sports town because the Celtics are the only good team, then you are absolutely wrong. I don't know how else to put it.
I'm surprised you got votes. All the Boston fans aren't voting against you because of your title. Any voter that has voted against you did so because you're discounting the accomplishments of the Sox, Pats, and Bruins without good reasoning.
Other than that, please change your avatar. Kinda annoying :D
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