- 10/18/2011, 06:40PM ET
And the Prophecy Read said 10/18, 06:40 PM
My Bengals absolutely FLEECED your Raiders. The Bengals Mike Brown for once made a beneficial move for the team.
First off for the future of both teams.
The Raiders don't pick until the 5th round in next years draft. You're going to tell me that team doesn't have holes to fill? Ok so there is free agency. The Raiders are already 5 mill over the cap BEFORE the trade. This isn't a great football team and more pieces are needed where are they going to come from for the next couple seasons?
The Bengals already feature one of the youngest teams in the league. They have the number 1 ranked defense and drafted a phenom WR in the first round and a VERY SOLID YET YOU SAID WOULD SUCK, AS YOU DID WITH AJ GREEN AS WELL, QB in Andy Dalton in the second in least years draft. To go with a capable line and a 1st round phenom TE in Jermaine Greshem as well. Jerome Simpson is a ball player and the other WR's are holding their own. Benson and Scott also are running well. Holes on defense are minimal as well. Now with the influx of high draft picks? Depth can soon be crossed off the list. Giving the Bengals a DAMN GOOD chance for a great future losing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in return.
DJRoxalot said 10/18, 09:59 PM
Going for an easy win? Of course, the Bengals got more than Palmer was worth. There were not a lot of options for the Raiders. Kyle Boller sucks. Terrelle Pryor isn't ready.
Matt Hasselbeck looked bad last year (59.9%, 214ypg, 6.76ypa, 12 TD's, 17 INT's with a 73.2 Passer Rating) and he is 36, 5 years older than Palmer.
This year Matt has completed 64.6% of his passes for 283 ypg, 7.81ypa, 9 TD's, 4 INT's with a 95.9 Passer Rating.
The point is a change of scenery can be great for a veteran player. Especially when you have played your entire career for the Bungles.
Trading him to the Raiders was a bit perplexing since they are basically helping a team in the AFC get better as they make a push for the playoffs. When there were other options, like trading him to the NFC where it wouldn't come back and bite you in the butt.
I never said AJ Green would suck. Quit putting words in my mouth that I never said. I like him as a player, but I said having a rookie QB-WR isn't the best way to start this year. Expect growing pains. Oh, and before you get those playoff tickets? They have had an easy schedule so far, it gets much tougher.
And the Prophecy Read said 10/19, 02:45 AM
First of all no team in the NFC was STUPID enough to give up a 2nd round pick, much less 2 possible first rounders.
Even if he does work out and turns to his '04 form he still wouldn't be the difference to making Oakland a Super Bowl contender. And with little money/draft picks they have no ways of making the final pieces to get a SB contender.
Second I have season tickets so if they do go the the playoffs I kinda get first dibs on them. I don't need to put an order in.
Third you said Green would struggle and many other negative things. He has done very well this year and will continue to get better.
Fourth THE BENGALS GET 2 POSSIBLE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS at least a 1st and 2nd for a player WHO WAS NEVER GOING TO HELP THE TEAM AGAIN.
This trade vaults the Bengals past the Raiders in terms of building for the future. I expect the Bengals to be strong players in the Trent Richardson sweepstakes making a dope young offense even more dank. On top of that they will also be able to pick up depth early in the draft the next two years making a young dangerous team even more dangerous. Its been rough but the Bengals future is as sunny as ever. Thank you Oakland.
DJRoxalot said 10/19, 06:20 AM
How do you know? Once they knew the Raiders were interested, the Bengals should have seen who else was interested. Both teams are 4-2 right now. I don't expect the Bengals to be playoff contenders with Pittsburgh and Baltimore in their way, but why help the Raiders possibly make the playoffs in the AFC by trading Palmer to them? Especially if you have hopes of making the playoffs? That is what doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Everybody and their mother knows they overpaid, but what is it worth it? I say yes, because they have a shot to win the West this year.
They were over the cap before the season and were able to get under it. NFL contracts aren't guaranteed. They can see who is worth keeping the rest of this season and make changes in the offseason.
"Third you said Green would struggle and many other negative things. He has done very well this year and will continue to get better."
Yes, you finally remember what I said. I never said he would suck. But like a lot of others, I had questions about a rookie QB to WR combination in their 1st year. Growing pains, it happens. And there are 10 games left for the Bengals.
And the Prophecy Read said 10/20, 12:50 AM
If adding not 1 but 2 possible game changers with high draft picks the Bengals are the ones who are building to the future. No matter what Palmer does he wasn't going to play in Cincy again. The Bengals come away big winners here. If the Bengals don't and the Raiders do make the playoffs this year the Bengals are still in better shape for the future. Great teams not only need great players but depth as well. This provides the Bengals with a great chance to get significant help.
The Bengals don't have many needs and now they can add players like Trent Richardson, Justin Blackmon, Michael Floyd, to a already pretty nice VERY YOUNG offense or one or two of the best defensive players as well. They get to do this the next two years with their own and Oaklands first and 1st or 2nd.
I don't believe the Bengals are too far away from being serious contenders. With another playmaker or two on offense and the same on defense this team can compete with anyone. All it takes now is solid drafting which the Bengals have done a very good job of in the Lewis era. I'd say with Lewis as the HC the Bengals have drafted better than most the league.
DJRoxalot said 10/20, 08:41 AM
I was waiting for my closing argument to tell you how the Raiders will add pieces to improve their team.
Oakland is 1 of the better teams at taking players who have never done much and made them their reclamation projects.
Exhibit A: Jarvis Moss. He never lived up to expectations in 3 seasons with the Denver Broncos. This season, he has been a spark on their defense as he has been a key rotation player.
His stats aren't flashy, 9 tackles and 1.5 sacks, and 1 PD, but he has [B]added depth[/B.] And with Matt Shaughnessy's shoulder injury, he is out for the season. Moss is about to step in and fill a void for them at RDE.
Exhibit B: Aaron Curry. He was considered to be a very good, albeit surprising draft pick by the Seattle Seahawks as the 4th overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft. He didn't play quite well enough in 2 years there (although he had 73 tackles and 3.5 sacks in 2010), and we just recently acquired him for a draft pick. And he is now adding depth at WLB.
You don't always need to improve yourself through the draft. The Raiders are very good at finding players and reviving their careers.
Case closed and game over.
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