- 10/22/2011, 09:36AM ET
HailYeah94 - ND Week said 10/22, 09:36 AM
Without the Yankees in the World Series TV ratings aren't as high and I would think that not too much revenue is being generated.
In 2000, there were 18,081,000 viewers. That had a rating of 12.4
That series was between the Yanks and Mets.
In 2001, there was a whopping 24,528,000 viewers and the rating was 16.7
That was between the Yanks and Diamondbacks.
In 2003, there were 20,143,000 people watching, and had a rating of 12.8
That was the series between the Marlins and Yanks.
Compared to the World series this year between the Cardinals and Rangers which had 12.9 million viewers in game 1, and the one last year between the Rangers and Giants whos game one had 8.9 viewers.
But in 2009 when the series was between the Yanks and Phillies the views for game 1 was 11.9 million.
Schad - Notorious Deadbeat said 10/22, 10:13 AM
Well, those are sure some numbers you've gotten there.
You use the 24 million in 2001 as your benchmark. Ok.
In 2004, for Game 4 of the World Series, there were 28 million viewers. There has only been 1 game since 2004 that have hit 20 million viewers, it was Game 4 in 2007, Boston vs Colorado.
Considering the Yanks have played in a WS since 2004, it sounds like that people were more into watching Boston than New York.
30 million people watched Game 7 of San Fran vs Anaheim in 2002 and that game got a 17.9 rating.
Also, using ratings and numbers from 2001 is quite misleading. In the last 10 years, there are a lot more things on to watch and a lot more people have gotten cable/satellite television since then as well.
What do all the games with the highest ratings have in common? Large television markets.
It is more an indictment of the popularity of baseball than a specific team being in the World Series.
HailYeah94 - ND Week said 10/22, 10:34 AM
But we could say that the Yanks are the most popular team in baseball right?
When you have a baseball argument it may not be about the Yankees, but you can't go without saying something about the Yankees.
From 2001-2006 they led the league in road attendance. Which mean people from cities other than NYC were coming out to support their Yankees.
They are also the 3rd most valuable sports teams in the world, and they're only behind Manchester United, and the Dallas Cowboys.
They are huge over in China as well. They made an agreement with the Chinese Baseball Association that allows them to scout over there.
Which would mean that not only would the world series be gaining more viewers if they Yanks were in the WS, but they would be gaining A LOT more to due all of the fans they have in China.
Schad - Notorious Deadbeat said 10/22, 01:53 PM
OK, you are kinda all over the place now.
First, your statement about "baseball arguments" being always about the Yankees isn't true. A lot of arguments are made and the Yanks aren't ever involved. To think otherwise is completely conceited.
Secondly, you are using attendance to "measure" popularity. OK. The Yanks played to 89.7% capacity this past season year at home. That was seventh behind Philly, Bos, SF, Minny, Cubs, and Milwaukee(!). They can't even sell out their own stadium.
Value means nothing in this argument. It's about the World Series not being the same without your beloved Yankees. So far, the ratings, which was your original argument, are proving otherwise.
As far as their popularity in China, no one really knows how popular they are there. As far as their agreement with the CBA and being able to scout, that means nothing about popularity or whether people would watch only the Yankees on TV in China. I'm going to guess that they would watch any team, but you have no idea and neither do I.
Also, how many "fans" do the Yankees have in China as compared to other teams?
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