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MVP
Mr.Know It All said 10/26, 08:56 AM
Well the last td didn't end so winningly for me. But, I know what I'm talkin about this time!!! Who will win this year's NFL MVP? Why it's none other than Tom Brady. Please comment and argue if you dare. CUE THE MICHEAL MYER'S MUSIC!!!!
(Un) said 10/26, 11:23 AM
Mr.Know It All said 10/26, 12:37 PM
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? At least Brady is actually playing right now. Unlike a certain QB that's been hurt recently and hasn't done anything worth crap!
Here's a little history son.
Tom Brady threw for 513 yards his first game this year. THE MOST BY AN NFL QB!
He also threw for over 400 yards in his second game this year.
The first two game, Peyton Manning has thrown for 0000 passing yards!!!! 0!!!!!!!!!
Like my good friend Colby Roberst always says, "I WIN!"
(Un) said 10/26, 01:44 PM
"WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"
I'm glad you asked!
This really comes down to how you define "Valuable". For some people, being Valuable is simply putting up bigger stats than the next guy. For the rest of us, Valuable is the impact a single player has on his team's win/loss record.
In my opinion Most Valuable Player is a guy who, when he's on the field, makes his team one of the best in the league. But when you remove him - just that one player - that same team crumbles into a laughing stock, seemingly overnight.
Without ever stepping onto the field this season, no player in the NFL has had his Value on display more significantly, week after week, than Peyton Manning.
That includes a 7-34 loss to Houston and a 7-62 nationally televised beat down against New Orleans last Sunday night.
With Peyton Manning, the Indianapolis Colts are a perennial playoff contender. They've had nine consecutive seasons of double-digit wins.
Without Peyton Manning, the Colts are 0-7 and quite possibly the worst team in the NFL.
Peyton Manning is the difference between a 10+ win Colts team and an 0-7 Colts team. That's about as Valuable as a player gets.
Mr.Know It All said 10/27, 08:56 AM
Ahhhh but, Tom Brady has the same scenario. He's one of the leaders of the team, sure he may not show it a lot but Brady is a great leader. What sort of nonleader wins 3 super bowls with his team!?
Tom Brady is most DEFINITELY valuable to the New England Patriots.
Plus all the stats he has, he'll get it no doubt. Because u also have to actually play and get big stats to win MVP in the NFL.
(Un) said 10/27, 10:15 PM
"Plus all the stats he has, he'll get it no doubt"
Well, if MVP voters are going to hand the award out based on the stat sheet, the front runner is Aaron Rodgers by a mile. He has yet to record a sub 110-QB Rating this season. And that 4 INT performance Tom Brady had against Buffalo is a blemish the stat sheet can't ignore.
However, if MVP voters are going to hand the award out based on win / loss impact, then the award goes to Peyton Manning. Yes, Brady is Valuable to his team. But Brady is not more Valuable to New England than Peyton Manning is to Indianapolis.
We've already seen how the Patriots fair without Tom Brady; they went 11-5 with Matt Cassel in 2008. (Granted that was three years ago; but the 3 super bowl wins you eluded to in your last argument occurred earlier than 2008, so you've made it fair game to bring up.)
This season we are witnessing how the Colts fair without Peyton Manning, and it ain't pretty.
Based on 2011 win / loss impact, Peyton Manning is the Most Valuable Player in the league. The irony is, much to JimJ's dismay, he never had to step onto the field to prove it.
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It's Rodgers, but I don't feel like taking this
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"CUE THE MICHEAL MYER'S MUSIC!!!!"
-- Don't they usually play that when he makes an unexpected apppearance...? Yours was pretty blatant!
DetroitFan*: It Is?!
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You'll catch Yoda in NO time!
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"CUE THE MICHEAL MYER'S MUSIC!!!!"
from Austin Powers 1, 2, or 3?
DaydreamBilliever:…
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Rodgers can suck on my thang!!!
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This isn't that kind of social site.
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The argument for Peyton: win 10+ games per season with him for 10 years - win none w/o him. Same cast of players, for the most part. Add Peyton and go to the playoffs!
Of course, usually a player has to play during the season to win MVP.
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Its actually not Rodgers. He's a great QB on a winning team which makes him the easy pick, but he's not the MVP
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@#1
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Right now, at this moment, Rodgers is CLEARLY leading for the MVP.
Try to leave the NE bias out of it. Look at record, stats, and the fact they have not lost since week 15 of last season. Including playoffs that 13 wins in a row. Rodgers has not had a game with a QBR under 110 this season, he has 20 TD's 3 int's and over 71% completion%.
No way you can ignore this.
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and Mr. Know it All. You sir are an idiot. Nothing you say is logical or statistically correct. Do you really think 513 yards is the most ever thrown by a QB in a game? check again.
you are a real Manning hater. All that about Peyton winning MVP this year is more of an observation of how piss poor the Colts are without him. Obviously he's not getting it. But at this point neither is your Pig Tailed, Uhgz wearing Water slide scared of QB in Boston.
Brady is damn good, but so far this season Rodgers has been BETTER!!!
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554 to be exact
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I see where you're going here, (Un).. but the OP asked the question "Who will win this year's NFL MVP?" Not who do you think is most valuable or how would you define value to a franchise.
The NFL MVP is predefined. You changed the premise.
I'd love to vote loophole but I can't yet. Left still hasn't made an argument yet, tho.
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