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  • 11/08/2011, 04:43PM ET

Paterno should not step down or get fired..

HighwayCrossingFrog (175-847-63) vs DJRoxalot (1085-669-126)
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I apologise if this has been done before..

Paterno told his boss.. Thats good enough for me..
Could he have called the police?
Once he told his boss, then it is his bosses responsibility to call the police..
Paterno was 75 at the time, and we all know he didnt have all the marbles back then..
Beating up on an old guy is uncalled for..
Paterno is a great coach, let him continue to do his job..

While the crimes are truly disgusting, molestation of a 10 year old boy..
Paterno didnt do it, and he did tell someone about it..
We dont understand the politics of the situation..
And obviously if Paterno was told to keep his mouth shut, so the university would not go through mud.. Then Paterno was just doing what he was told to do, and was just being loyal to his organisation..

I cant believe everyone is over reacting to this and calling for Paternos head..
Yes its a big story, but he doesnt have to go..
I know its a distraction, but him going wont make the distraction disappear..
Will it affect recruiting? I dont see how it would..
Paterno is a great coach, he is adorable, and people would love to play for him..

Good luck!


The AD and a high ranking university official have already been fired.

JoePa is next.

This is the kind of scandal where they clean house. It's way worse than money exchanging hands from booster to players, cars, stripper abortions to cover up players mistakes and such.

"And obviously if Paterno was told to keep his mouth shut, so the university would not go through mud.. Then Paterno was just doing what he was told to do"

You cannot be serious. At some point your conscience has to bother you enough so you do not stand by and condone a coverup. Especially when you have talked about teaching young men the right thing to do, etc.

JoePa was a football coaching icon who I grew up watching coach some great teams, but he is gone.

Affect recruiting? It's a very bad stigma to have attached to the school. And it will hurt recruiting. This is the most shocking news I can remember hearing regarding college athletics.


Joe paterno is old school..
he was told to keep his mouth shut,
and thats what he did..
he loved the school, it was a part of him..
yes the crime is disgustin, no question..
but it has nothing to do with paterno..

He reported it..
had he not reported it, fine, throw him to the wolves..
we dont know the full story..
somethin tells me paterno will come out of this with his honour intact..

this is a sad and tragic situation..

The person who did this crime is completely biological whacked..
he probably should have taken his own life..
either way, he will probably get murdered in jail..

Look no one on this website is clean..
we have all done things we wish we could have done differently..

Paterno will die without football..
he does not need to be embarrassed..
he is a noice guy..
he does not need to be held accountable,
unless they bribed him to shut up..

The world will be a darker place without coach paterno on tv..


"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless **** it.-Joe Paterno.

Paterno did what he was supposed to do, he reported it. But really, HCF? What about doing the right thing? The moral thing?

The man has preached what he is doing is more than just coaching football players. He is teaching kids about what it takes to be men and productive members of society.

"Losing a game is heartbreaking. Losing your sense of excellence or worth is a tragedy."-Joe Paterno

What about your self esteem? Joe, you could have prevented other kids from being harmed. It's all about doing the right thing. You did what was required of you pertaining to your job, but what about doing what is required of you as a human being?

I for one am shocked that Joe-Pa of all people didn't do more.


Just in, paterno says he wants to keep his job until the end of the year,
and then step down..
i hate compromises..
but lets give the old man one more year of glory..
his players love him, and are doing the right thing by supporting him..
just because someone did not do the morally correct thing,
does not mean you turn your back on them..

Joe does not have all the marbles..
so yes I can see this happening..
come on, he talks gibberish 90% of the time..

To all my haters out there..
fu_ck you!
i brought an important issue to this site..
life isnt all about sports..
we have a moral responsibility to talk about heavyweight topics..
its not my fault you are too imature to handle it..
and im the only one on this site who has the ba_lls to defend joe..

For the record I am an excellent teacher..
i see alot of teachers scream at their kids..
i have never raised my voice at a student,
its not my style..
i treat them with humor, authority and love..

Good luck fan nation.. These are dark times..

You want to hang grandpa?
fine.. Count me out..


Just in, paterno says he wants to keep his job until the end of the year,
and then step down..
i hate compromises..
but lets give the old man one more year of glory..
his players love him, and are doing the right thing by supporting him..
just because someone did not do the morally correct thing,
does not mean you turn your back on them..

Joe does not have all the marbles..
so yes I can see this happening..
come on, he talks gibberish 90% of the time..

To all my haters out there..
fu_ck you!
i brought an important issue to this site..
life isnt all about sports..
we have a moral responsibility to talk about heavyweight topics..
its not my fault you are too imature to handle it..
and im the only one on this site who has the ba_lls to defend joe..

For the record I am an excellent teacher..
i see alot of teachers scream at their kids..
i have never raised my voice at a student,
its not my style..
i treat them with humor, authority and love..

Good luck fan nation.. These are dark times..

You want to hang grandpa?
fine.. Count me out..

November 8, 2011  04:46 PM ET

As usual, HCF is on the wrong side of an issue.

November 8, 2011  04:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

As usual, HCF is on the wrong side of an issue.

By law Paterno was and is required to call Police first then his boss.

November 8, 2011  04:49 PM ET

HCF: you don't see a reason why this would impact recruiting?

A major part of recruiting is convincing the parents that their children are safe in your hands. This incident, if true, shows JoePa did little to protect children associated with the program from a child molester. I certainly wouldn't want to entrust my child to his care.

November 8, 2011  04:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

By law Paterno was and is required to call Police first then his boss.

The truly scary part about this TD is HCF is a teacher.

November 8, 2011  04:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

By law Paterno was and is required to call Police first then his boss.

No.

Morally, you may say that. Not By LAW when he didn't witness any crime.

November 8, 2011  04:53 PM ET

Frog, if you were Paterno...what would you have done? Hopefully something other that keep it on the low down. This news makes me sick. It should have made Paterno a lot more uneasy than it apparently did.

November 8, 2011  04:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

No.Morally, you may say that. Not By LAW when he didn't witness any crime.

I guess that depends on whether JoePa's position as a coach subjects him to PA mandatory reporting laws. If so, he should have reported it to the proper authorities.

November 8, 2011  05:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

No.Morally, you may say that. Not By LAW when he didn't witness any crime.

Morally doesn't come into it. And, as my wife who tought preschool said, "Any awareness of abuse must be reported to authorities then supervisors". He didn't have to witness the crime itself just be aware that abuse may have occurred. It isn't just JoPa either. Campus police investigated in 1999 and found abuse occurred but let him off with a promise not to do it again. Not that JoPa had anything to do eith that.

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November 8, 2011  05:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I guess that depends on whether JoePa's position as a coach subjects him to PA mandatory reporting laws. If so, he should have reported it to the proper authorities.

Wasn't sure if those were state or federal but most staes have then now anyway.

November 8, 2011  05:04 PM ET
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Special place in Hell for sickos like that.

Yes there are.

November 8, 2011  05:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Morally doesn't come into it. And, as my wife who tought preschool said, "Any awareness of abuse must be reported to authorities then supervisors". He didn't have to witness the crime itself just be aware that abuse may have occurred. It isn't just JoPa either. Campus police investigated in 1999 and found abuse occurred but let him off with a promise not to do it again. Not that JoPa had anything to do eith that.

That is an excellent policy for a pre-school. However, the law (which I don't have in front of me) must have said something different because Paterno was cleared of legal wrong-doing by the Grand Jury. Had he violated a law, he would have been charged.

November 8, 2011  05:18 PM ET

djroxalot: RIP Joe Frazier said 11/08, 04:54 PM
The AD and a high ranking university official have already been fired.


They weren't fired. They voluntarily stepped down. Understandably so.

November 8, 2011  05:23 PM ET

Penn Law:

"Licensees who are staff members of a medical or other public or private institution, school, facility or agency, and who, in the course of their employment, occupation or practice of their profession, come into contact with children shall immediately notify the person in charge of the institution, school facility or agency or the designated agent of the person in charge when they have reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of their professional or other training or experience, that a child coming before them in their professional or official capacity is a victim of child abuse. Upon notification by the licensee, the person in charge or the designated agent shall assume the responsibility and have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made"


He's not legally in trouble because he was not deemed the one in charge, he reported to his superior and the burden of responsibility was passed

November 8, 2011  05:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

That is an excellent policy for a pre-school. However, the law (which I don't have in front of me) must have said something different because Paterno was cleared of legal wrong-doing by the Grand Jury. Had he violated a law, he would have been charged.

I think the issue is that at the time Paterno reported it to his superiors, Sandusky was not employed by the University. However, the higher ups allowed him to use their facility for his Second Mile program and thus they are the ones being held accountable.

The morality issue is separate. I have my feelings (as I'm sure others do also) on what should have been done, but legally he did what he was supposed to do.

November 8, 2011  05:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Special place in Hell for sickos like that.

Even Hell doesn't want them!

November 8, 2011  05:25 PM ET

I think the amount correct information in this TD is at an all time low.

 
November 8, 2011  05:25 PM ET

IMO, they should make a Paterno Beanie doll and give it free to the first 100,000 fans that come to the next game.

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