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  • 11/10/2011, 02:31PM ET

Tebow is not the most overrated player in the NFL

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Outside of the media hype, I don't think many people believe that Tebow is that good of a player.
Even his fans feel that while he doesn't have all the tools that other great quarterbacks have, it's the "spirit" that makes him a winner.

Overrated in my opinion, is a player who has some skill but are given far too much credit for minor successes

I'm going with Tony Romo.
Since becoming a full time starter in 2006, he's won 1 playoff game and only made the post season 3 times.

On top of that, his team regularly collapses at the end of seasons and he hasn't performed well under pressure.

Because he plays for "America's team" he regularly gets a lot of press coverage and should the Cowboys go on a winning streak, he's elevated to the ranks of one of the best QB's in the league.

Romo also isn't young (by NFL standards) and at 31, he's basically past his physical peak. If the Cowboys are smart they'll start looking for their quarterback of the future instead of waiting for Romo to one day fulfill his potential.


I know you want to go ahead and get this done before end of business on Friday, I am going to say why Romo isn't the most overrated player in the NFL and list my selection at the end.

He is 43-26 (in the regular season) as a starting QB in the NFL.

Tony Romo is just 31 and still in his prime, Business Romo has 11 comeback wins. Romo also has the 5th best Passer Rating ever at 95.1

Romo playes for the Dallas Cowboys, long called "Americas Team." With that comes a lot of undue criticism because the spotlight is always on him. Does he make mistakes? Of course, every QB does. It comes with the position.

All you have to look at is look at the QB situation since Troy Aikman retired to understand what he has meant to Dallas. It was unsettled for years with Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, and Drew Bledsoe.

Joe Flacco is more overrated than Romo.

He should have no excuses with Anquan Boldin and Ray Rice. They even went out and acquired Lee Evans. He has regressed this year playing horribly.

54.7%, 256ypg, 6.6ypa, 9 Td's, 6 INT's with a 76.9 PR.


I think you misunderstood the TD

I've never seen any commentator, writer or even Baltimore fans say that Flacco is anything more than a average QB

His sole job is to not make too many turnovers and hopefully pull in the win because Baltimore's defense will keep the game close.

Flacco's never thrown close to 4000 yds
He's had double digit INT's every year and his completion percentage is 60%

Flacco has never been to the probowl, nor has he come close. Thus his colleagues and league coaches do not think highly of him.

Hence he can not be overrated.

On the other hand, because Romo puts up big stats, he's mentioned in the same category as Manning, Brady, Big Ben and Drew Brees.

Quite honestly, I'd even take Eli Manning over Romo because at least he's come thru in the clutch before.

Part of Romo's reputation is built on stuffing the stat box. So yes, he'll get pro bowl votes based on numbers.

The other part of his reputation is on losing big games in the regular season and getting absolutely destroyed in the playoffs.

Tony Romo is a stat stuffer, nothing more and highly overrated


Have you ever heard the Baltimore fans on here? They are always calling him a Top 10 QB and that is simply false. And he has clearly shown he is not playing as well this season.

He is just 4-3 in the playoffs despite having a great RB in Ray Rice and a great defense.

Look at his postseason stats:

53.3% for 150ypg, 5.7ypa, 4 TD's, 7 INT's with a 61.6 PR.

No, lets look at Romo in the postseason, shall we?

59.3% for 208ypg, 6.2ypa, 4 TD's, 2 INT's with an 80.8

Romo might not be the best QB in the League, but he is better than Flacco. If Romo played on the Ravens, they might have another Super Bowl in the Emerald City.

Romo is a huge part of the reason the Cowboys have made the playoffs 3 times. I think he is an excellent QB. He might not be elite, but he is an upgrade over the QB's that Dallas was putting out there before he came along.

Here is the deal with Romo. His mistakes are magnified more because he plays for a franchise like Dallas.

He is NOT the most overrated player in the NFL. And to say he is? That is an insult to Dallas fans everywhere.


Romo is a decent quarterback. No one disputes that.
Flacco is an average quarterback. Once again, no dispute.

In order for a QB to be overrated, they have to at least have a high rating
The fact that you've also pointed to the fact that Romo is far better than Flacco shows that Flacco isn't overrated.

I know many Baltimore fans and they do not view Flacco as a great QB. Granted, a franchise in which your greatest QB is Bernie Kosar, who played for Cleveland, then yes people will give Flacco the benefit of the doubt.

But no one considers him to be top 5 and he's never been at the top of league stats.

Romo on the other hand is a decent QB but some feel that he's easily one of the top 5 QB's in the league.
This is a serious debate.
For many commentators, its
Manning
Brady
Romo
Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers

I'm not saying that Romo is garbage
He's a decent QB and has an arm but he's definitely not top 5 as any analysts list him.

If you feel Romo isn't overrated, then make another choice
But at least choose someone who is actually decent.

Flacco is an average QB and outside of this TD, I'm positive you'd probably agree that no one considers him anything more


"For many commentators, its
Manning
Brady
Romo
Big Ben
Brees
Rodgers"

Who? I don't think that's accurate at all. I think he is around 7th or 8th.

"If you feel Romo isn't overrated, then make another choice
But at least choose someone who is actually decent."

Lets look at some numbers, shall we?

Flacco's stats in 2010:

62.6% (11th)
7.4ypa (11th)
25 TD's (tied 10th)
93.6 PR (7th)

That's not average, 15th or 16th. That's top 10 quality, which is what a lot of Baltimore fans on here (PA Ravens fan or whatever his name is nowadays).

This season:

54.7% (32nd)
6.64ypa (25th)
9 TD's (tied 20th)
76.9 PR (25th)


Flacco has experienced a major dropoff in his numbers. So much so that ESPN recently had a poll, which QB has regressed the most: Rivers, Sanchez, Ryan or Flacco. All have experienced a major hit to their numbers.

Romo's numbers are what they typically always are. He is consistent. His turnovers (like I have been arguing) are just more magnified than other players.

Romo is NOT overrated.

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November 10, 2011  02:52 PM ET

No crap.

November 10, 2011  03:01 PM ET

Tony Romo? The undrafted qb from EIU who is 5th all time in qb rating? I'd say he's more underrated based on the hate he receives despite his good performance.

I don't like him personally, but he's not overrated.

November 10, 2011  03:05 PM ET

Obviously, Tim tebow isn't the most overrated, but Tony Romo is a stupid choice well.

If we're just talking QBs, I'd go with Vick.

November 10, 2011  03:05 PM ET

Despite what everyone says, I don't think Mark Sanchez is overrated either, as no one really thinks he's good. Even as a Jets fan, I think he has his moments and has potential, but as of right now, he's not a great QB. You have to be rated highly to be overrated.

November 10, 2011  03:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Obviously, Tim tebow isn't the most overrated, but Tony Romo is a stupid choice well.If we're just talking QBs, I'd go with Vick.

I'd support that.

November 10, 2011  03:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Tony Romo? The undrafted qb from EIU who is 5th all time in qb rating? I'd say he's more underrated based on the hate he receives despite his good performance.I don't like him personally, but he's not overrated.

I'm not saying he's a bad QB but does that stat make him the 5th best QB ever? I don't even have him in my top 5 right now and most likely not in the top 10.

November 10, 2011  03:13 PM ET
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I'm not saying he's a bad QB but does that stat make him the 5th best QB ever? I don't even have him in my top 5 right now and most likely not in the top 10.

No, but all i ever hear of Romo on TV is him being criticized. I hear them blaming all the losses on him. But if you look at his numbers he is one of the most productive QBs out their.

November 10, 2011  03:22 PM ET
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No, but all i ever hear of Romo on TV is him being criticized. I hear them blaming all the losses on him. But if you look at his numbers he is one of the most productive QBs out their.

He's one of the most QB's out there but he's not a winner. Doesn't that make him overrated?

November 10, 2011  03:24 PM ET

Mark Sanchez. The guy will never be even a good QB.

November 10, 2011  03:25 PM ET
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Mark Sanchez. The guy will never be even a good QB.

See comment #5.

I disagree that he will never be a good QB, but the fact is, regardless of that, no one thinks he's good now. So he can't be overrated.

November 10, 2011  03:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Obviously, Tim tebow isn't the most overrated, but Tony Romo is a stupid choice well.If we're just talking QBs, I'd go with Vick.

I would say fantasy wise Vick is the most overrated but as far as real football I think he is pegged where he should be. No one really says he is on the level of Brady, Rodgers and Brees but the next tier down which I think is pretty fair. He might be a little high but I don't think that all that overrated.

November 10, 2011  03:28 PM ET
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See comment #5. I disagree that he will never be a good QB, but the fact is, regardless of that, no one thinks he's good now. So he can't be overrated.

I hear plenty of people who point to the Jets postseason success and say he is on par with guys like Ryan and Flacco. I think the Jets success gets mixed up with his play far too often. IMO he isn't even average.

November 10, 2011  03:30 PM ET
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I would say fantasy wise Vick is the most overrated but as far as real football I think he is pegged where he should be. No one really says he is on the level of Brady, Rodgers and Brees but the next tier down which I think is pretty fair. He might be a little high but I don't think that all that overrated.

But many people won't hesitate to put Romo right up there with those guys

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November 10, 2011  03:31 PM ET
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I hear plenty of people who point to the Jets postseason success and say he is on par with guys like Ryan and Flacco. I think the Jets success gets mixed up with his play far too often. IMO he isn't even average.

Well, part of that is that playing well in the playoffs (which Sanchez undoubtedly does) gets magnified, but also that people severely overrate Ryan and Flacco (though not as much Flacco, I feel like people consider Ryan to be better).

Using those 2 guys, Sanchez has a QB rating of 84, which in fact is very average (17th in the league), but has a higher QBR than guys like Matt Ryan and Flacco.

That's not the only factor, but the fact is, those two guys get very overrated when neither of them are particularly special.

November 10, 2011  03:38 PM ET
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Aaron Rodgers is overrated by the media this year. He's playing great, but he's not a *god.*yet.

Yeah, I've noticed that a bit. I don't know if it's for lack of other stories or not, but they seem to be making him a combo of Dan Marino and Joe Montana. He's very good but I don't know if I'd go that far. At least not yet.

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November 10, 2011  03:49 PM ET
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Leaning towards Flaccid Joe, but researching. You going to be around this weekend, J-Business or we getting this done by the end of business on Friday?

Preferably by the end of Friday. I'm traveling Saturday and won't be able to attend to TD related things until Sunday.

 
November 10, 2011  03:49 PM ET

Don't let the faithful Tebowites read you saying "I don't think many people believe that Tebow is that good of a player."
Some of them truly believe that Tebow has the same abbilities that Manning has plus he can run better than Adrian Peterson.

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