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- 11/15/2011, 01:45AM ET
It's an OVERKILL.. (BOXING TD)
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE said 11/15, 01:45 AM
So, I think it's very funny that everybody and their Mom thinks Floyd Mayweather is going to punish Manny now. First of all, lets give Marquez his DUE.. Marquez is the lightweight world champ, he's got 2 losses and 1 draw to Manny. Styles makes FIGHTS, and that's what the big deal with that was. Manny won the fight in my opinion, but a NARROW, and I mean, NARROW decision.. I'd give Manny 2-3 rounds over Marquez at the end of the fight, TOPS.. Honest opinion.. While I do have a Manny avatar, I'm fully aware of Floyd Mayweather jr. I watched Mayweather jr. abuse Anturo Gatti, which awokened my eyes.
Here's the deal.. let me just put it plain and simple for yah.. Manny HATERS..
MANNY'S BIG ADVANTAGE, against MOST ANYBODY.. hint hint..
it's the way Manny knows how to get outta trouble, and how Manny run's in and punches..
MANNY HOPS from SIDE TO SIDE, he CREATES CRAZY ANGLES TO HIT FROM, I"VE SEEN NOTHING IN MY LIFE LIKE IT.
Manny, which is a lame argument, is more entertaining to watch, he doesn't counter, HE GUNS..
Floyd's undefeated, his styles.. Impeccable..
BUT..
Withall this being said, I like Manny to win a narrow decision against Mayweath
BuckyBadger. said 11/18, 12:37 PM
OK I will pick this up.
What happened to Manny knocking out Marquez or tearing through him because he has improved so much? I thought Pac has gotten so much better that this wouldn't even be a contest. Turns out that Marquez does have what it takes to compete with Manny.
Manny does hop from side to side but his hopping is what gets him in trouble vs counter punchers. His movement is extremely quick but when you are hopping what has to happen before you can through a punch? You have to stop hopping, this tells the counter puncher you are know going to throw a punch.
If a slower Marquez can time this as well as we have seen in 3 fights what do you think someone like Floyd will do? Marquez is like the Karate Kid to boxing where Floyd is Bruce Lee. Both good but one in a class of their own.
I find it funny how Pac fans like yourself look at one moment that Floyd got touched in the Mosley fight to show how Pac will win but after 36 rounds of struggling vs Marquez doesn't open your eyes to how poorly Manny does against these kind of fighters.
Floyd will not only win a decision but he will dominate the fight. He is faster, stronger an bigger than Marquez but fights similar.
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE said 11/18, 04:40 PM
Bro Bro..
Floyd's just on a tear, right?
He sucker punched a 24 year old, raw, champ!
this is after a 16 month layoff..
Who can't knock somebody out, with two free **** licks? lol
Mayweather is a great boxer, and so is Manny..
Lets not digest that Mayweather beat Marquez soundly, and Manny didn't.. Because if that's the case, then what happened to Hatton and De La Hoya for Manny?
Either way, Floyd's biggest opponent in his HISTORY, is MANNY..
LIke i stated, who's the last guy that's been up in Floyd's grill?
We all know Manny will.. Also, Manny's head is quite huge, I think his chin showed a lot in the last fight with Marquez.. At this point, I'd almost rather see Khan vs Mayweather, and Marquez vs Manny 4.. BUT
if Floyd fought Manny in May, he's being dumb, he still needs another tuneup.. maybe, so does Manny..
Floyd's chin?
never seen it exposed, well, maybe Demarcus "Chop Chop" Corley has something to say about that..
I mean, ask Sugar Shane, he said Manny punches harder..
here it is..
BuckyBadger. said 11/19, 11:42 AM
What happened with Oscar and Hatton with Mayweather? He beat them first. That is more important than beating them afterwards later. To knockout someone the first time is much harder than taking on someone's leftovers and everyone who saw Manny vs Oscar knew that Oscar was a dehydrated piece of meat with no energy.
Marquez vs Manny is a foreshadowing of Mayweather vs Manny because the styles are similar enough we can draw conclusions. We saw once again Manny gets hit easily by guys who have great counter punching.
This isn't hard to understand "bro". We have seen Manny exposed by a fighter that fights similar to what Floyd does but not as good. There is no reason to think Floyd won't do better.
Manny does have more power, no one will discount this but to question Floyd's chin or heart is just straight hating. He has never been down and has never shown any quit in a fight. Manny has been down more than once and stopped in the ring.
A tough pressure fighter like Chop Chop doesn't do you argument well. He was taking knees and won only 1 round from Floyd. He was dominated in that fight.
Manny is more pleasing to watch but Floyd is the far better boxer, you will see.
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE said 11/21, 01:10 AM
Yeah, you will see that heart and hustle, will in all actuality, beat SKILLL!
Mayweather will be in FLOYD'S GRILL>.
Has flody ever had a black eye?
busted nose?
jumping phillipine bean in his face?
Marquez putting a fight was given, even you know that Bucky, lets be real, at least Manny fought Cotto and Margarito, Floyd dodged Margarito, and damn sure didn't have the panties for Cotto.. I know Mayweather could win both those fights, but while on the table, he was scared.
Manny wins a decision, it's very very close.. Manny's chin is better than people think, sure, Floyd's getting some shots in , this isn'a onesided fight, but Manny works more, and therefore will be the aggressor, in some irrelevant rounds for the both of 'em, you can't knock that.. floyd counters, manny attacks.. i still have him winning, he hates Floyd.
BuckyBadger. said 11/21, 09:50 PM
I am glad you recognize that I stated that Marquez would give Pac a tough fight. The funny thing is that you did not predict what happened, not even close. You said Manny would be to much and would walk right through him. Since I predicted that fight correctly it only helps my case predicting this fight.
Yes Floyd has had a busted nose and been marked up pretty good in fights. Just because you don't follow these fighters when they are making their name doesn't mean these fights aren't happening. Maybe pay attention to Floyd before the Gatti fight and you will see he can handle a war as well as anyone.
A great counter puncher will always beat a great pressure fighter. Just how the sport works and why the best fighters in history had a style more like Floyd rather than a style like Pac does. There are great pressure fighters in the history of the sport but they always feel short when fighting a great all around boxer. Look at Ali vs Frazeir [RIP], Duran vs Leonard and I could go on.
You have shown your bias towards Manny from the start but it is time to look at this fight for what it is. A great all around boxer vs a great pressure fighter. The better boxer will win.
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Manny's just that kinda guy.. cont. lmao
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE
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Floyd would be smart not to fight Manny.
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I feel u PcH.
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neither would last 2 min in a cage with a UFC fighter... which is why boxing is on its last leg
BSchwartz07
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On its last leg? If you mean pulling in gates that are as big as the sport has ever seen and PPV sales as good as ever. Sorry but try looking at the facts before you listen to some idiot on ESPN that thought the Eagles was going to dominate or the NBA is real basketball.
BuckyBadger.
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I enjoyed the comment till the end, nba is real basketball.. Who's B-hop fighting next for the title? lmao
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE
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Bucky, why'd you drop it like it's hot?
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE
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Probably because he did this TD earlier in the week. Except taking the opposite side and instead of copy and pasting his arguments he wanted something fresh, but his other TD pretty much summed it up.
wildbill21475
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sure.. Floyd's on a tear, he sucker punched a 24 year old in the last one, coming off a 16 month layoff, give it a break, Manny style foo!
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE
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Better yet, why don't you take it Shelton!
XXPCHXX-HOME ALONE
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NBA isn't anything right now and IMO not really basketball. Anyone run a 2-3 zone in the NBA? or course not because its against the rules. Against the rules to play any zone or any real defense really. Sorry just a hyped up street game that is basically clearing out for your star player and going one on one.
BuckyBadger.
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I was at the airport and thought I had time to get an argument up but my flight was boarding.
BuckyBadger.
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I will try not to miss any arguments. At home on vacation and will be at the Packer game on Sunday and too drunk afterwards to do any but should have some time before.
BuckyBadger.
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Not a sucker punch. The ref said fight and Ortiz already kissed him twice. I think it is ok to punch any guy trying to kiss you. Ortiz is a dumb kid, hopefully he learned because his attitude is normally great for the sport.
BuckyBadger.
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it was a sucker punch.... Floyd excepted that little hug/kiss thing waited for the guy to start backing up, hands down and pretty much defenseless at that point to take multiple free shots
Floyd knew what he was doing and for anyone to say different would just be them kidding themselves. He made a classless move in what was probably a retaliation move for the earlier headbutt from Ortiz. Overall the fight was a big display of classless in ring actions from both sides
Chosen1
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If you back up with your hands down after the ref says fight what are you suppose to do? Protect yourself at all times. Floyd did know what he was doing but doesn't mean it was a sucker punch. You can't sucker punch someone who is standing in front of you and a person between you says "fight". It isn't Floyd fault Ortiz wasn't protecting himself.
I have watched the film a hundred times, it wasn't cheap. Even after the first punch Ortiz was just starring at the ref and didn't put his hands up. What was the ref suppose to do, stop a boxing match cause someone was punching him? Boxing is about punching and to call it classless is just ridiculous IMO.
Even boxing writers like Dan Rafael who take every chance they get to take a shot at Floyd said it was clean. Every boxer I saw interviewed said it was clean. You can think what you want but Floyd let him hug and kiss twice, after that you are on your own in that ring. How many times is Floyd suppose to let Oritz to that? The fight was on, end of story.
BuckyBadger.
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Manny has looked awful in his past two fights. Pacs style plays perfectly into Mayweathers. Pac has looked sloppy and out of control in each of his last two fights. He honestly looked flat out terrible against Mosley, he is just lucky Mosley is too old and slow to even do anything. Bottom line he fights like how he did against Mosley and Marquez against Mayweather and Pac gets knocked out.
The []__[]
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I agree that if Manny is like he has been it might end in a knockout. Floyd does knockout pressure fighters, just look at Hatton and Coralles.
I thought Manny looked a little heavy vs Margarito. He is slowing down and his fans don't or refuse to see this.
BuckyBadger.
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I enjoyed the random DeMarcus "Chop Chop" Corley reference.
YODA
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lol are you kidding me? So because you and Dan Rafael said it was not classless it wasn't? Do you know how many people out there have disagreed with you? Tons so lets not act like it is a clear cut one sided debate here.... Put Ortiz Mayweather cheap shot or Ortiz Mayweather classless in a yahoo search and see if people were not calling it a BS move
Why was he staring at the ref? I don't know maybe because the ref was turned away from the action not watching what was going on....... Which could make things a little confusing seeing as how when a fight is going on the ref is supposed to be watching the action
The fact of the matter is Mayweather went right in to the defense of you are supposed to protect yourself at all times because he knew he took shots on an unprotected and unexpecting oponent...... The fact is he set it up to take the cheap shots on Ortiz
You say how many times is he supposed to let Ortiz do that? Well he let him do it that time and hit him as he was breaking off the hug he did that knowing his opponent would not be expecting it which is the easiest time to hurt or stun a person...
It was classless and to say any different is ridiculous........ and that is the end of the story
Chosen1
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