- 11/18/2011, 02:00AM ET
J-Business said 11/18, 02:00 AM
By conventional NFL wisdom, the Broncos should not be winning. They're running a 1940's offense.
The QB isn't look to pass much down the field.
He lacks the "fundamentals" to be considered a big time QB
But the bottom line is.
The Broncos are winning
And they're doing it against decent teams.
To heck with the numbers, the percentages, the yards per game.
For some reason or another, Tim Tebow has led the Denver Broncos to 5-5 record and they are 4-1 with him as the starting quarterback.
A lot of people are pointing at the offensive stats and at Tebow's numbers and saying they can't win like this.
If there's one thing we've seen in the NFL is that the only thing that counts is the number in the win column.
Brady has won without a big time receiver
Manning has won without a running back
Baltimore has won without a real offense
And so on and so on
Point being, Tim Tebow is winning with the Broncos and he deserves to be their starting quarterback
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 11/18, 03:28 AM
It's hard to explain what's going on in Denver right now. I've certainly tried to figure it out myself and I think I've found a pretty reasonable explanation.
If you go back just 3 years ago, the Wildcat was running rampant through the league. Ronnie Brown was seen as an elite back simply because he could run the Wildcat. He even made the Pro Bowl that year. It wasn't some type of unstoppable offense, it was simply an offense that no one had seen before and couldn't figure out how to stop it that season.
Eventually, the phase ended and teams completely shut down the Wildcat. It's now non-existent and teams don't even bother with it anymore.
Fast forward to this year. Tim Tebow isn't running an offense we haven't seen before. He's running an offense that is primarily a college offense and one that's not seen in the pros. Tebow isn't putting mind-boggling numbers, but he's doing things that need to be done to win games.
In the end, however, this offense will be figured out and teams will stop him. He might make it a while longer, but Tebow doesn't need to remain the starter after this year at the longest
J-Business said 11/18, 11:04 AM
I never said that Tebow was the quarterback of the future nor did I make any mention of what the Broncos should be doing next year
What I am saying is that Tebow deserves to be the Broncos starting QB for this season
Regardless of the numbers that Tebow's putting up, the most important number is in the wins column
It seems as if you agree with my argument "Tebow isn't putting mind-boggling numbers, but he's doing things that need to be done to win games"
Because that's essentially my main point. Regardless of what kind of "numbers" Denver is putting up, Tebow has to remain the starting QB and Denver shouldn't even think about putting Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn behind center
The Broncos are now 1/2 a game out of first place and have a very real chance at winning the AFC West and making the playoffs
Bottom line is the Broncos are responding to Tebow as a leader and stats or not they're winning.
He deserves to start for the rest of the season
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 11/19, 05:05 PM
The Jets held Tebow in check for the majority of the game. The one mistake they made was dropping into a more pass-prevent defense on the final drive and lost. They gave Tebow room to run.
From now on, I fully expect opposing defenses to mirror the Jets approach and anyone with a better offense than the Jets (which is most the league) will beat them. The Jets have laid the groundwork for how to stop Tebow.
I don't agree with your argument. I went off your last statement and I disagreed with it. Tebow's offense is very much like the Wildcat. It took a while for people to figure it out because it was different, but it eventually became non-existent. Tebow's offense has already been figured out and now it's going to get worse.
If he isn't the QB of the future, then why would you continue playing him? Hell, why not give Brady Quinn a chance? He's a better passer at the least. Tebow just isn't going to be the guy long-term in Denver and he probably won't even be the guy for the short-time either. He had a good run, but this is good as your going to get with Tebow as your starting QB.
Sorry Denver fans.
J-Business said 11/20, 01:25 AM
Your still jumping around the FACT that Tebow is winning.
Tebow did well in the few games he played last year and he's doing better this year. If his game is so easy to figure out, teams would have done it 3 games ago.
Quite honestly, his intangibles are what is allowing him to lead his team to victory and you can't measure that.
Tebow has won 3 straight games against 3 quality opponents
2 of them were in the division and 1 is a serious playoff contender
The fact that you would even suggest giving Brady Quinn a chance is ridiculous.
The Broncos are a half a game out of first place to a team they recently beat and you want to change the QB?
And for Brady Quinn?
Good coaches know how to maximize the strengths of their players and this is what Fox is doing with Tebow.
Additionally, the one point you're not pointing at is that Tebow isn't making mistakes during the game.
It doesn't matter if a QB throws for 400 yds in a game, if he throws 3 ints, and 2 in the red zone, what's the point?
Tebow is winning and there's no more important number right now than 4 wins and 1 loss
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