- 11/19/2011, 10:45PM ET
Marlins Fan said 11/19, 10:45 PM
This is kind of a stupid TD, but whatever. Won't be the first stupid TD and it damn sure won't be the last.
Anyway, I think the old Florida Marlins logo and color scheme were better than the new Miami Marlins versions.
For anyone who isn't tuned in to the Marlins goings-on, they recently unveiled their new ballpark, at which time they also busted out some new uniforms and the changed name.
The new uniforms suck. They're even calling it the "Rainbow Bright logo". Doesn't get any fruitier than that.
Here's their old logo and colors:
Here's their newer, crappier versions:
Anyone who's in favor of the new logo and has enough time to kill to warrant the acceptance of a TD this dumb, well, good luck to you I guess.
P.S. Sorry if my images don't work. It's been a while since I've used pictures in a TD and my form might be off.
Confucius. Trout said 11/20, 01:07 AM
The Marlins have just as many Championships as the Dolphins and more than the Heat.
They've had superstars. Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, and Miguel Cabrera.
Why do I bring this up?
I could go on, but I think you get the point. These (as you probably guessed) are the Marlins attendance figures over the last 5 years for the Marlins. Pretty sad. The really need to change their image, because it's already been proven that they need to do more than win a championship.
The Marlins are getting a brand new stadium, they have a brand new name, they have a championship manager, and they're actually going after big name free agents.
This is a re-branding process. They're trying to build an image. So it only makes sense that they would have a new logo. Initially, no one thinks the new logo is better than the old one (with a few exceptions), but you'll get used to it over time.
Is it really that bad? I guess it's a matter of opinion. I happen to think it looks just as good as the old one.
Marlins Fan said 11/20, 02:15 AM
I definitely agree about changing the uniforms as part of an attempt to change the product. That was certainly Loria's intent, and I guess it was worth a shot. But why'd they have to choose such a horrible theme?
That's my beef here. I'm ok with the Marlins changing their logo and colors, but I'm not ok with the direction they decided to go in.
This was supposed to be a step forward with all the new-ness this year, but the unis were definitely two steps back.
The uniforms look horribly dated. Considering the point was to present something new and exciting to draw in the fans, the Marlins couldn't have picked anything more unfashionably old.
If the options were to have these new Rainbow Bright unis or stick with the old ones, the answer should've been the latter of those options.
The old unis were way better and they basically took something that wasn't broke and broke it in an attempt to fix it.
Confucius. Trout said 11/20, 01:25 PM
This franchise is stagnant. It needed to be completely over hauled.
Like I said, it is a matter of opinion.
All I know is, is that they are desperately trying to become more attractive to Miami sports fans. The Rainbow might be a little weird choice for a uniform, but maybe they're trying to have a bright, vibrant image instead of the stale look they had.
This isn't like the Yankees changing their uniforms. The Marlins have no tradition (or enough fans to get 20,000 people to go to a game). You can say the uniforms weren't broke, but clearly they weren't good enough to attract fans.
Will these new unis attract fans? Probably not, but they're new. When you're the least popular team in Major League Baseball, doing something is always better than doing nothing.
Miami is not a small market, yet the Marlins spend like they're the Algona Marlins.
Just having a new look, can give your team a new feel. They may feel gay, but maybe that makes them seem cool and fashionable. You don't now.
Marlins Fan said 11/20, 09:36 PM
You mention how this isn't like the Yankees changing their uniforms. Which is true, but you're missing the point. The Yankees have had the same look for my entire lifetime, and probably much longer in reality.
The Yankees are a brand of their own.
The Marlins, on the other hand, will never be on that level because they changed their whole identity.
I recently heard a sports caster explaining why the Rays and Marlins have poor attendance. His theory was that since these teams are new to MLB, any success they've had is countered by the lack of familiarity and tradition with the fans. Fans still aren't going to their games because there's minimal history, minimal tradition.
Generations of Yankees fans have grown up with their favorite team; it's been a constant source for them. People's dads and grandfathers are Yankee fans, and it gets passed on down, establishing a tradition, a heritage even.
The Marlins don't have that. They are not a brand. But the only way to achieve that status is by every year succeeding on the field and giving fans something tangible to grow with. Something like a logo, or a color scheme.
Miami took a step back in that process.
Confucius. Trout said 11/21, 04:50 PM
What were they growing with their old colors and uniforms? If they were farmers they and their families would've starved to death 10 years ago.
Your initial reaction maybe that they took a step back in that department, but will you have the same opinion 10 years from now? Probably not.
This is just your initial reaction to something new.
The Marlins weren't just a stale franchise, they were rotting. If they continue to get the kinds of crowds they're getting now, they're going to be in serious danger of being relocated.
So they're trying a new look. I don't know how you can blame them for that. They're a desperate franchise.
You should just give the new look time, if they're successful, it'll grow on you.
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