- 11/28/2011, 12:26PM ET
J-Business said 11/28, 12:26 PM
The Eagles will not resign DeSean Carter.
He's a great talent but at the same time, he's not a team player and will most likely not become one anytime soon.
If there's one thing we've learned about "diva" wide receivers, it's that they never seem to "get it".
I like DeSean a lot and he's a great talent but he seems to be heading down the same road as T.O., Chad Ocho with just a touch of Randy Moss.
Without the height and jumping ability.
Sadly, DeSean seems to be mailing it in, as he dropped a few key passes against New England and even short armed a potential TD because of a near by linebacker
But that's only part of the reason. The main issue will be that he will be seeking a big contract, which he doesn't deserve and which the Eagles will not be seeking to pay.
Add to this the fact that Drew Rosenhaus is his agent and it has all the makings of being a mess.
They'll demand a big contract and want Jackson to be one of the top 5 receivers in the league. And you know what, some team will offer it to him.
It just won't be the Eagles
Razorback Attack said 11/29, 04:12 AM
I'm glad you agree with almost 90% of NFL fans on this topic. You sure had this win locked up, until you said the Eagles wouldn't sign DeSean Carter. While I agree they probably won't sign a DeSean Carter at all, they also probably won't resign DeSean Jackson either.
But we have to consider the fact that the Eagles are throwing money at any type of talent these days. Another good reason they will not sign him. They simply won't have the cap room.
I really do feel for DeSean Carter though....
J-Business said 11/29, 03:04 PM
Interesting note "Sarge". You obviously had to read the headline of the TD in which I mentioned "DeSean Jackson"
Thus it would seem quite obvious that I made a mistake in the name. One time.
You decided to repeat my mistake 3 times. Nice
In regards to the argument, that you actually didn't attempt to argue
I'll give you 3 angles you could have used
1 - If Andy Reid is fired, most likely Jackson will be resigned. The owner will structure the deal so that Jackson receives a good deal of his money thru incentives
2 - Regardless of Jackson antics, the combination of him and Jeremy Maclin gives the Eagles one of the best young receiving combos in the league. Maclin is long and can stretch the defense, Jackson is fast and is always a threat
3 - The market for Jackson will be lukewarm. He isn't having a big year and he's small. He kind of reminds of Rod Tidwell
So there you go "Sarge". Instead of submitting a lame argument, this is what you could have said
I'm also suspicious of how a TD'er with a 1-1 record can come on and automatically be sarcastic
It usually takes a few close losses and poundings before that kicks in.
Might you be a dupe?
Razorback Attack said 11/29, 11:19 PM
Getting defensive, it's okay I didn't mean to destroy your ego, we all make mistakes.
While you may be right in all subjects, the reason I chose to point out your mistake was your attempt to argue a point you knew many people would agree with; thus possibly setting you up for a comfortable win? You really can't argue the point that Jackson wouldn't be re-signed and I stated a good reason why. Salary Caps are a fact. However, his marketability is all the opinion of the interested parties. Also, "the owner will re-sign him if Andy Reid is fired?" Have you been reading to many Truth and Rumors?..clearly opinion.
I could have also argued that the Eagles WOULD re-sign him due to their awesome running game as of late. Do you think that without Jackson the Eagles would have [as successful of] a running game this year? The eagles need someone to take there focus off of a backfield with Micheal Vick and LeSean McCoy. He may be a little bit of a Ultra-Ego, but the kid has talent. The issue with an NFL team is that they are a business, money is always going to be the biggest issue. That is why DeSean Jackson will not be re-signed.
J-Business said 11/30, 01:26 PM
The point is that, with everything being said, you could have made a valid argument. Instead you accepted the TD and agreed with me.
As I mentioned, it's not as simple as the Eagles just letting DeSean Jackson walk without making a serious offer. He's one of the best and most dynamic offensive threats in the league.
There's aren't more than 5 players in the NFL whom if you put them in to return a punt, they are a SERIOUS threat to return it for a touchdown. And this isn't even his main position.
Salary wise, due to the new rules, many of the top teams in the NFL may not be able to give him an overload of cash.
Thus he'll be choosing between playing for the Eagles or other decent teams and going to a lower rung team.
What's interesting about sports now is that many of the top players are opting to forgo max dollars, taking mid level to high figures and playing for a contender.
Thus it's not as simple as fans would like to make.
I may as well have made this TD, created a dupe and argued it myself because that's basically what I'm doing.
Razorback Attack said 12/01, 12:06 AM
Well, I wish you would try to disprove at least one of my arguments, as C-C-C did below. (Speaking about, how the salary cap situation, wouldn't even be an issue) But you are essentially just defending yourself from my statements. Talking about what I could have argued...if you can argue both sides, so can I.
I agree it's not a simple situation; however, Jackson is like TO in many ways. To name a couple; he has great talent, and he hasn't shown up this year. He can't be expecting to cash in after this season, he will probably stay with the Eagles because he will have to settle for a mid-level salary next year, and they'll be the ones to offer him just enough to stay. He hasn't shown any other team that he is one of the NFL's top WR's (not kick return men, but WR) though he had a good year last year; I doubt many people will take the risk of signing him to a big deal, to watch him "Do the Delhomme"
"As I mentioned, it's not as simple as the Eagles just letting DeSean Jackson walk without making a serious offer. He's one of the best and most dynamic offensive threats in the league." <-When did you mention that? When you touched on Maclin and Jackson being a young WR Corps?
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