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  • 12/01/2011, 03:18PM ET

Top 5 teams in the NBA - Today

J-Business (91-72-24) vs Hail_the_Hale (1-3-0)
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These are the top 5 teams in the NBA as of now.

1. Dallas Mavericks
2. Miami Heat
3. OKC Thunder
4. LA Lakers
5. Chicago Bulls

The Mavericks - The defending NBA champs and respect has to be given. They're returning Nowitzki and other key parts. They'll add a player or two and most likely re-sign Tyson Chandler

Miami Heat - Will be tough and most likely be the number one team in the league by mid-season. They'll add a center but will still stay away from picking up a point guard. All said, this will be the team to beat by mid-season but for now, #2.

OKC - Played Dallas very tough and they're a young and up and coming team. Last season's WCF was a learning experience and it's made them better.

Lakers - Kobe has had time to heal his body, Gasol has cleared his mind. They're both going into the season with something to prove and they'll once again be one of the top teams.

Chicago Bulls - They're a great team in all aspects but the Miami Heat simply have their number. With that being said, there aren't 4 other teams in the NBA better than them, and in some circles they'd be higher.


1. Miami Heat
2. Dallas Mavericks-
3. Chicago Bulls-
4. Oklahoma City Thunder
5. New York Knicks

1. Miami Heat- With the Big Three and promising youngsters like Chalmers and Cole, the Miami Heat should be the team that everyone thought they would be last season.
2. Dallas Mavericks- Although they are the defending champions, the Mavericks return to this season even older than last year. They will be lucky if they can keep Barea and Chandler but it looks unprobable. Even with these problems, they should be one of the league's best teams.
3. Chicago Bulls- With a young team loaded with talent and the league's defending MVP in Derrick Rose, the Bulls should repeat last year's success.
4. OKC Thunder- Durant and Westbrook look to go even further this season into the playoffs with Ibaka and Harden. All of their important players will be returning this season.
5. New York Knicks- It is Carmelo's first full season in New York and would be Paul's first season there as well if the Hornets trade him. Their Big Three would rival Miami's. They also have a good supporting cast with players like Fields.


Being that we agree on the top 4 teams, I guess it comes down between the Lakers and Knicks.

For one, NY does not have Chris Paul and it's not a guarantee that he'll be there even during this season. If there's one thing we've learned, it's that teams will hold on to a player as long as possible to get the max out of a potential trade.

That definitely will not happen during this short regular season.

The Lakers on the other hand are bringing back the core of their team, which won the title the previous year.
Being eliminated early in the playoffs and the lockout helped Kobe, Pau Gasol and Bynum get healthier and they will come out the gate very strong.

The Knicks on the other hand looked completely lost in the playoffs and weren't even competitive. On paper they have potential but I'm not sold on how Carmelo and Amare's on court chemistry

Add to this their current point guard Chauncey Billups is old and hearing trade rumors, and it's likely they will not start out strong.

Maybe by mid-season after some trades, they'll be one of the top teams, but there's no way possible they are top 5 at the beginning of the season.


If it???s between the Knicks and the Lakers, the Knicks are clearly better.

Even without Chris Paul, the Knicks are a great team with Billups running the point. As of today, Billups is a better point guard than Fischer.

The Lakers are an old team with nine players over thirty compared to only one on the New York Knicks. The Knicks also have more young players who have yet reached their full potential.

If the Knicks will be affected by trade rumors, so will the Lakers with the possibility of trading for Dwight Howard. More players will be affected by it with Bynum and Odom in trading talks as well as Metta World Peace.

Although the lockout may have rested the Lakers veterans, they will soon be tired because of a condensed schedule with more back-to-back games. They will also have less time to prepare and get in good physical shape.


So you're saying that even without Chris Paul, the Knicks are better than the Lakers?

Based on what?

They were swept out in the 1st round and the last two games weren't even competitive.
On top of that, they played little to no defense and Carmelo and Amare lacked cohesion on the court.

Chauncey Billups was thoroughly outplayed
Also, you can't really compare the trade rumors between Billups and Bynum.

For one, Bynum has been hearing them for years and is still there.
Billups never wanted to get traded in the first place and made this known.

The Lakers also are a proven commodity and with the exception of last season, they've proven time and time again that they'll be around when it counts.
Kobe will be Kobe
Pau Gasol and Bynum will definitely bounce back
Ron Artest (MWP) will be valuable on the defensive end
Fisher is old and will most likely make way for an easily accessible young guard

The Knicks on the other hand are unknown. In theory, their "young legs" were supposed to make them competitive against the Celtics but we see how that turned out.

There's simply no way possible the Knicks are a top five team at the start of the season


The Lakers were swept in the playoffs as well and unlike the Knicks, they are a team that is on the way down. Being "unknown" and full of potential is better than being old.

Kobe might not be Kobe this season with a risky and unproven fourth surgery on his knee. Also there is no young guard ready to take over for Fischer.

There's simply no way possible the Lakers are a top five team with all the distractions surrounding the team, health problems, and lack of depth on the perimeter.

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December 1, 2011  05:25 PM ET

Knicks.

December 1, 2011  06:25 PM ET

You say there aren't four other teams better than the Bulls but you have them 5th?

What gives?

December 1, 2011  08:16 PM ET

I'll remember this...

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December 2, 2011  04:16 AM ET

I meant to say "that definitely will not happen during this short pre-season".

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December 2, 2011  09:23 PM ET

We won't know until after free agency. If Chandler leaves Dallas they are not top 5 anymore. But free agency or not, the Knicks are nowhere near top 5.

December 2, 2011  10:49 PM ET

Bricks are not better than the Lakers, maybe if they get CP3, but not now.

December 2, 2011  11:47 PM ET

As a Knicks fan, there is no way the Knicks are a top 5 team. No chance is hell. When a team plays no defense, you can not get that high. I would be surprised if they are a top 10 team.

Teams that will be better in no order
Celtics
Bulls
Heat
Lakers
Mavs
OKC
Orlando
San Antonio

I know not ten but some other teams will rise up also, maybe Atlanta or Portland.

December 3, 2011  01:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

As a Knicks fan, there is no way the Knicks are a top 5 team. No chance is hell. When a team plays no defense, you can not get that high. I would be surprised if they are a top 10 team.Teams that will be better in no orderCelticsBullsHeatLakersMavsOKCOrlandoSan AntonioI know not ten but some other teams will rise up also, maybe Atlanta or Portland.

In theory, I would also put Atlanta but they are an almost guaranteed out in the playoffs. Portland can potentially be good but they have to resolve the Brandon Roy issue and move on.

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December 3, 2011  02:51 AM ET

Heat
Lakers
Bulls
Thunder
Mavs

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December 3, 2011  11:47 AM ET

Miami Heat LOL! You can't buy a championship Pat Riley, and if there is still any doubt in your mind just ask Andy Reid!

The throwdown was for the top 5 "teams". Miami is a collection of streetballers.

LOL!

 
December 4, 2011  03:30 PM ET

Voting left. The Mavs are the Champs, so they deserve to be #1. The Knicks haven't done anything and shouldn't be on here unless they really acquire Paul and/or Howard.

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