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  • 12/05/2011, 06:20PM ET

The BCS got it right, stop complaining

CuntryBlumpkin (305-247-64) vs cubby2bubby (13-19-1)
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I'll admit, I was hoping OSU would jump Bama, but I didn't expect them to, and in all fairness, they didn't deserve to jump Bama.

The purpose of the BCS system is to pair the two best teams in the country together, if the two best teams happen to play in the same conference, obviously both of them can't win the conference Championship. The fact Oklahoma State won the Big 12 and Bama had LSU to contend with in their division should have no barring on who gets in and who gets left out.


Oklahoma State was beating Iowa State 24-7 late in the third, only to choke away the game and lose to a team that wouldn't have made a bowl if they didn't beat them. Talk about the plane crash all you want, but it didn't seem to effect them for the first 3/4 of the game.


Bama's loss was an OT loss to the ONLY undefeated team in the country, in a game that many people think Bama outplayed LSU.


I'm not sure why this is even a debate, the quality of your losses do matter, and just two weeks ago Bama was the unanimous number 2. When Bama was idle, why was that supposed to change?

It's just a case of people crying about not getting what they wanted.


2007 ring a bell?

The argument was that you can't have two teams from the same conference play for the title game. Michigan's only loss came to Ohio St, but the game was given to Florida.


All sounds like garbage to me, which is college football....two best teams? really? How so, when one can't win their own conference...or in years past this was the instance, but now that the SEC has this scenario, it's okay for two teams from the same conference play each other?


Secondly, how can you have a team, which already loss to their opponent, get a rematch when there is just a deserving team in OSU, according to computer polls, which actually take EMOTION and the human factor out of the rankings?


SO, you say past opponents and wins should old merit, but then you go on to say that Bama couldn't help that they played LSU, and should have no effect on who gets in and who gets out. Bama lost fair and square, like any other opponent, why do they get a rematch?

It's all a fix, and money driven, otherwise playoffs would be on the horizon and a TRUE Champion crowned.


You meant 2006, not 2007, and Florida's lone loss was to Auburn, a teams that finished the season ranked in the top 10, completely different when OSU's loss was to a team that wouldn't even be bowl eligible without that win. And if you remember correctly, Florida dominated Ohio State, so it looks like, once again, the BCS got it right.

When the two best teams in the country happen to play in one conference, of course only one of them can win the conference. Winning your conference isn't, and shouldn't be a requirement. We have at large bids for a reason, and this season is a prime example of why winning your conference shouldn't be a requirement.

It's quite simple, Bama lost by 3 in OT to the number 1 team. OSU lost to a team that finished 6-6. OSU clearly wasn't as deserving.

Bama deserves the rematch for having the best defense in the country judging by yards and points allowed, having a loss to a much better team than OSU's loss, and OSU did nothing that would warrant jumping Bama in a week where Bama was idle.

Anti-SEC bias is a huge reason why people are crying. The two best teams are playing for the championship, the way it should be.


So if it is convenient for your argument, it's okay to have this years # 1 and 2 team plays but not years past? Doesn't work like that. The number 1 and 2 teams were Mich and Ohio St, regardless of the loss...just like this years scenario but were denied a rematch.

More proof, that any team can win anytime. you can't say the BCS got it right, just because the Florida scenario worked out with them winning in 2006. Hinde sight is always 20/20 and very rewarding for your sake of argument.

The same rules need to apply...the two best teams were Mich and Ohio St in Jan of 2007 Just like you are preaching here, but for some reason, its the SEC and it needs to have them play, but years past the BCS messed up? And you call anti-SEC? Regardless of the outcome, the two best teams were Mich and Ohio st. That game didnt happen....

Bama deserves nothing....just ask the computer who put them lower than OSU....human element put them in the title game, not the true rankings.

If you can't beat a team, at home, you don't deserve another shot over a team who hasn't had the chance...

It's not anti-SEC, it's anti BCS, b/c that's what put Bama in

December 5, 2011  06:27 PM ET

I agree...

December 5, 2011  06:29 PM ET

A team that can't even qualify for it's own conference championship doesn't deserve to play for the national championship.

Plus, I really don't care about outplaying in a loss or having a better team on paper or anything like that.

December 5, 2011  06:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

A team that can't even qualify for it's own conference championship doesn't deserve to play for the national championship.Plus, I really don't care about outplaying in a loss or having a better team on paper or anything like that.

But a loss to Iowa State gets overlooked?


It should be the two best teams playing, if the two best teams play for the same conference, then so be it.

December 5, 2011  06:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

But a loss to Iowa State gets overlooked?It should be the two best teams playing, if the two best teams play for the same conference, then so be it.

They had their chance, at home, and couldn't get it done. So, the reward is a "do-over" to the team not good enough to play in their conference championship?

Plus, OSU played a tougher schedule.

December 5, 2011  06:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They had their chance, at home, and couldn't get it done. So, the reward is a "do-over" to the team not good enough to play in their conference championship?Plus, OSU played a tougher schedule.

And they lost to a team that wouldn't have made a bowl if they didn't beat OSU.
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The two best teams should play for the championship, and the two best teams are playing for a championship. There is a very good reason why they don't have winning your conference as a requirement. It would defeat the whole purpose of having At large bids.


LSU>Iowa State

December 5, 2011  06:46 PM ET

LSU > Bama....already proven

December 5, 2011  06:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

And they lost to a team that wouldn't have made a bowl if they didn't beat OSU. \The two best teams should play for the championship, and the two best teams are playing for a championship. There is a very good reason why they don't have winning your conference as a requirement. It would defeat the whole purpose of having At large bids.LSU>Iowa State

Sorry, I just can't buy giving a team another shot to win a championship to:

1. a team that they already lost to, at home.
2. a team that didn't even qualify to play in the championship game.

December 5, 2011  06:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

LSU > Bama....already proven

But this time it'll be 12-6!

December 5, 2011  06:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Sorry, I just can't buy giving a team another shot to win a championship to:1. a team that they already lost to, at home.2. a team that didn't even qualify to play in the championship game.

And IU can't buy giving the shot to a team that lost to a team that finished 6-6 a shot when there is another team out there who's only loss came by 3 in OT to the number 1 team in the country.

December 5, 2011  06:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

LSU > Bama....already proven

Just like MSU > Wisconsin?

And every NFL division opponent that rematches?

December 5, 2011  06:58 PM ET

Guarantee no one would have had an issue with Oregon getting a rematch if they would have beaten USC.

December 5, 2011  07:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

And IU can't buy giving the shot to a team that lost to a team that finished 6-6 a shot when there is another team out there who's only loss came by 3 in OT to the number 1 team in the country.

They were also dealing with a plane crash that killed faculty members. That should be taken into account as well.

December 5, 2011  07:04 PM ET
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They were also dealing with a plane crash that killed faculty members. That should be taken into account as well.

And they had a 24-7 lead late in the third quarter. Did the crash only effect them in the 4th quarter?

Bama's kicker had diarrhea that day, that should be taken into account.

December 5, 2011  07:08 PM ET
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Guarantee no one would have had an issue with Oregon getting a rematch if they would have beaten USC.

At least we would be seeing a title game with two conference champions. Your only argument is the teams Bama and OSU lost to, and it's kind of weak. Alabama lost to LSU, and you want to give them a second chance over a team that has more quality wins and won it's conference?

OSU > Bama

December 5, 2011  07:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

At least we would be seeing a title game with two conference champions. Your only argument is the teams Bama and OSU lost to, and it's kind of weak. Alabama lost to LSU, and you want to give them a second chance over a team that has more quality wins and won it's conference?OSU > Bama

Bama has the number 1 defense in the country in both points and yards, Arkansas is a higher quality win than any win OSU had, and OSU lost to Iowa State.

The two best teams should play in the BCS Title game, and the two best teams are.

Don't let your anti-SEC bias get in the way.

December 5, 2011  07:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

At least we would be seeing a title game with two conference champions. Your only argument is the teams Bama and OSU lost to, and it's kind of weak. Alabama lost to LSU, and you want to give them a second chance over a team that has more quality wins and won it's conference?OSU > Bama

Can't you see everyone is arguing OSU deserves to play over Alabama but no one in their right mind is arguing OSU is actually BETTER than Alabama.

Because they aren't.

December 5, 2011  07:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Can't you see everyone is arguing OSU deserves to play over Alabama but no one in their right mind is arguing OSU is actually BETTER than Alabama.Because they aren't.

Thank you

December 5, 2011  07:17 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Thank you

You're welcome.

December 5, 2011  07:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Just like MSU > Wisconsin?And every NFL division opponent that rematches?

Which has no bearing on National championship....BUT has ever implication on Rose bowl, because the winner would have WON THEIR CONFERENCE.

 
December 5, 2011  07:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Can't you see everyone is arguing OSU deserves to play over Alabama but no one in their right mind is arguing OSU is actually BETTER than Alabama.Because they aren't.

an you know this bc.....? they have never played each other, OSU hasn't had a chance to beat a team Bama lost to at home, and osu had a tougher SOS throughout the year....go on

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