- 12/05/2011, 08:15PM ET
bmata34 said 12/05, 08:15 PM
While there playoff hopes have gone up in flames lately with injuries to Jay Cutler and Matt Forte the Bears should try to ride it out with Caleb Hannie at quarterback. Even though he's been far from good he's a superior option to McNabb. For a number of reasons it would be hard for the Bears to win with McNabb.
fvkasm2x said 12/05, 08:33 PM
I don't care if he's lost a step, his arm is weaker and he has to learn the offense.
McNabb is still a good QB only 2 seasons removed from a very strong year.
They scored 3 points yesterday. THREE POINTS!
With Matt Forte out for an undetermined amount of time, the Bears have no offense whatsoever now. Their stud RB is out and their starting QB is out. Why not take a gamble? If they can hold on to a playoff spot, this would be a great time for McNabb to learn the offense and be ready for the playoffs.
12/24 for 133 yards with 3 interceptions
Hanie for the season?
2 TD, 6 Int, 387 Yards, 40.8 QB rating
Sign McNabb. Have him backup for a game like Palmer did in Oakland. Give Hanie another shot at it while McNabb eases himself in. If Hanie turns it around, great. If not, go with McNabb and see what he can do.
bmata34 said 12/06, 01:06 AM
There is no way the Bears should sign Donovan McNabb. First off, is it even possible for McNabb to learn the offense? It's well known that Mike Martz has one of the most, if not thee most complicated offenses in the league. I doubt any quarterback, even of McNabb's experience could learn even enough of the offense in one or two weeks.
Secondly, McNabb is done. Last year for the Redskins he looked weak, slow and old. He threw more INT's then TD's and his passer rating was under 80.
This year with the Vikings was even worse and that was with defenses focusing on Adrian Peterson. McNabb had games where he threw for 40 and 81 yards. Thats pathetic for an NFL QB.
There's a reason the Eagles got rid of him, the redskins got rid of him and the vikings got rid of him, as great of a career as he had, HE'S DONE.
fvkasm2x said 12/07, 01:42 AM
His year in Washington was terrible. I can't argue that. No sane person could, although he was never really given a fair shake. It's hard to prepare for a game when you're fighting with the coach, the players don't trust you and the entire team is in a state of flux week in and week out.
In Minnesota he has a pretty bad O-line. Ponder hasn't done anything. Favre didn't do much and he is a sure-fire Hall of Famer.
So if Favre, T-Jack, Ponder, etc... can't do anything in Minny, why would McNabb?
McNabb is certainly on a decline. Age and physical punishment of the game is getting to him. But could he do better than Hanie? I think so.
The Bears need to do something. McNabb is probably the best option out of a list of terrible options.
- Sticking with Hanie is very dangerous. He's looked terrible so far and hasn't had many bright spots, other than a few drives here and there.
- Bringing in another QB other than McNabb. There aren't any top tier QB's out there and even if there were, would they learn the system any quicker than McNabb?
They have nothing to lose by signing him and giving him a shot.
bmata34 said 12/07, 02:10 AM
I understand that his year in Washington was tough because of problems with Mike Shanahan but if he struggled with Shanny, how would he do with Mike Martz, who is notorious for struggling to get along with other coaches and players. Why do you think he has had so many OC jobs even though his offenses always put up big numbers. So there could be a conflict between the that really ends the Bears season.
The o-line excuse in Minny doesn't really hold ground because the Bear is just as bad. The Vikings have given up 37 while the Bears have given up 34. So if the o-line was the problem then it certainly won't be fixed in Chicago.
Favre was done in Minny as well and T-Jax is terrible no matter where he goes. But Ponder is actually doing something is Minnesota averaging almost 40 more yards per game than McNabb was.
Do I think Hannie is the second coming of Tom Brady or even a viable long term option? Absolutely not. But I do not think it is possible for McNabb to learn Martz's offense in such a short time period.
Plus, it should really tell you something when another playoff team needing a quarterback, the Texans, sign Jake Delhomme over McNabb
fvkasm2x said 12/07, 06:22 PM
You can't just compare sacks against (I assume your 34 and 37 numbers are those) and claim another O-line is better or worse. You have to consider many things:
- the opponents faces (do they face a lot of pass rushes)
- the QB able to throw the ball away
- the QB able to scramble out of the pocket
- hurries and interceptions
And so on...
As for the Texans signing Delhomme, that doesn't really come into this discussion.
The Texans signed him on Nov. 29th. McNabb had to go through waivers first and didn't become a free agent until Dec. 2nd. Obviously the Texans aren't going to sign McNabb, when they had already committed themselves several days earlier.
Nobody wanted to claim McNabb off waivers, because then they'd have to deal with the remainder of his terrible salary.
You've confused the situation with two different things.
As for Hanie being a long term option, nobody has said that and it isn't even the case. It's about making the playoffs NOW and winning NOW after a good start to the year. Cutler will be back next year, but that doesn't mean they can win a game in the playoffs with Hanie, let alone make it to the Superbowl.
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