- 12/12/2011, 11:45AM ET
MadMex/El Tri! said 12/12, 11:45 AM
I've been watching this kid's fights lately. Fights similar to Mayweather, & I think he has the most potential out of all the top prospects I've seen so far.
Challenge me if you pick someone else besides him.....I'm interested on reading your thoughts on another fighter
BuckyBadger. said 12/13, 11:32 AM
OK I will go with just a top prospect with potential. Broner won a paper title in his last fight. He was suppose to fight Rick Burns of England for it but he moved up in weight so they fought for a vacant title.
I originally was going to go with Jose Benavidez, a 19 year old who was an accomplished amateur and already been fighting for 2 years as a pro but he might be a bit too obscure right now and hard to argue considering he is still developing.
I am going to go with a guy who might be a bit older but I think still fits the bill of young prospect. Middleweight Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin.
Quillin is 28 years old but got a bit of a late start with only having 8 or 9 amateur fights. As pro he is 26-0 with 20 kayos winning his latest test vs Craig McEwan getting the stoppage in the 6th.
Quillin has a chance to rule the middleweight division in the near future with Martinez getting up there in age. Quillin is developing a pretty good all around game. His defense is improving and is really learning how to set up his power.
MadMex/El Tri! said 12/13, 10:39 PM
Well, I've been watching Broner in his last 3 fights pick up the competition.
He has totally outclassed everybody he's fought. He's been in there with Ponce Deleon(former titlist), Jason Litzaou(B Level fighter IMO, but still a good test), & his last opponent was also a B Level fighter, but he had never been stopped before.
alot of people call him a "wanna be" Mayweather, but i personally think later on he will develop his own style. BTW, I don't think it's a bad idea to "imitate" the P4P best fighter in the World.
IMO, the kid's got good boxing fundumentals, good balance, quick reflexes, Like Mayweather, does a good job of countering his opponents with good solid, snapping punches.
I still think he needs to be a little more "adjusted" to the pros, but the fundamentals are there....thanks to a 300 plus amateur career. Even the Great Mayweather didn't look so hot in some of his early bouts.
BuckyBadger. said 12/15, 12:02 AM
I only got 5 minutes but I will give it a go.
I like Broner but I didn't think he dominated Ponce. I thought he gave up a lot of rounds and the fight was closer than the scores indicated. Ponce is no slouch but he is smaller.
I feel Broner has good reflexes but my worry is a good pressuring Mexican fighter can take him. At his weight he will see plenty of them. If he makes it through you will be right, I have my doubts.
Kid Chocalate has started to get a following and has started to step up his competition. McEwan is no slouch and Jesse Brinkley is a good win for a young guy. He doesn't have much farther to go to be getting a title shot vs someone in the division.
Middleweight is weak and there isn't much coming up. Broner fights in a division that you can get lost in the wash. He must stay perfect early. Quillin will find his waters a bit less vicious and will season easier.
MadMex/El Tri! said 12/15, 02:16 PM
Well, both Broner & Quillin fought recently. I saw both fighters in action. Both fought B level fighters IMO.
I wasn't too impressed with this kid Chocolate guy. He kind of reminds me of Pavlik. Good long range fighter
w/ a good right. Only, I think Pavlik had a better jab. In Quillin's last fight, Roy Jones was commentating & I agree w/ his assessment on Quillin. He relies too much on his right hand. So much that at times he lunges in w/ it....(look at his right foot in his last outing) he constantly picks it up(because he's off balance trying to put too much power on his right) & gets out of position. A good well schooled fighter will check hook him all day. I also think he needs to improve on his inside game(Quillin). He doesn't look too comfortable fightin on the inside. Like Pavlik, he's too one dimensional & I think he will have trouble with a slick, mobile fighter.
As far as my prospect, he has a 300 plus amateur record. That tells me he's been in there with all types of fighters, & has seen all types of styles.
I'll go with a young 21 yr old fighter w/ a strong amateur background over an older fighter with 10 amateur fights any day of the week.
BuckyBadger. said 12/16, 12:22 PM
What gives me pause on Broner is his attitude. Who has their dad combing their hair before a fight, not even a big fight? What father does that for his son? I understand the entertainment side of boxing but this kid sometimes acts like he is big time and he has only arrived. Will he use this attitude as pressure like Mayweather does making sure he will always give everything he has or will he get content once he gets his first big pay day? Broner has the talent, its his attitude that gives me pause. Hope he doesn't just have yes men around him like his father appears to be.
Quillin might be a little more raw but he has shown the intangibles to being a boxer. Has a good chin, good power, the heart of a fighter and hasn't looked ahead yet in his career. He has good size for a middleweight and might even be able to move up to 168 later in his career.
Quillin didn't have the amateur career but he grew up with a fighters mentality. Growing up Cuban in Brooklyn Quillin is ready for what the squared circle will throw at him.
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