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  • 12/13/2011, 03:20PM ET

Just ask Herm Edwards, he saw it the way I did

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James Harrison got the 1 game suspension due to reputation and NOT the actual hit on McCoy.

Therefore, the 1 game suspension is over reacting to reputation and NOT due to the actual hit.

Now Dj thinks the 1 game suspension is NOT ENOUGH , that more games should have been suspended.

I am not sure exactly how the league pays out their checks but here is a quick break down as to how much I see this suspension costing Harrison.

$3.66 million salary divided by 16 regular season games equals, $228,750 @ game.

I understand that he is a repeat offender of the league's current policy, however, NO ONE has ever been fined that much let alone made to sit out one game.

Based on that, I feel the 1 game without pay more than pays for his infraction.

I will post a youtube of Herm Edwards comments and personally, having watched pro football for 45 years now, I agree with Herm. JH did NOT launch himself. He did not spear with the top of his helmet. But, and most importantly this, IF JH was TRYING to hurt McCoy on that play it could have been much, much worse.

here is the video, (hope this works)


"$3.66 million salary divided by 16 regular season games equals, $228,750 @ game."

Harrison restructured his contract in August, lowering his base salary down to $1.25 million. If he misses one game? He will forfeit $73,529 in salary.

I am all for letting defensive players being able to lay on a hit, but Harrison lowered his helmet and it was an obvious violation of NFL rules on a helmet to helmet hit.

The NFL???s official statement noted that Harrison has been the league's biggest repeat offender. "In addition to four fines for illegal hits against quarterbacks in 2009 and 2010, Harrison also was fined twice for unnecessary roughness during that period. Harrison totaled six fines in that two-year period."

This is the same player that has called NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell a devil and a crook. Fining him doesn't work because he hasn't changed. Suspend him 2 games, just like Suh was. Maybe missing a few games will make him and his team realize what he is doing is wrong.

BRING IT, HEE HAW!!!!


Okay, DJ, first you say you don't want to do it and I look for you to drop it.

Then, you skew JH's salary,
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/1632/james-harrison-contract-details

He DID restructure his salary. He did make less than $2 mil last year. HOWEVER, his salary this year jumped to $3.66 just like I stated.

Second, as Herm Edwards stated, JH DID NOT lower his helmet. IF you call planting your mask in someone's chest lowering your helmet, then maybe you are right, but that is NOT the way I see it.

There are many repeat offenders around the league and we here on FN have already agreed that the commish picked out JH to make an example of last year.

Coach Tomlin has repeatedly stated that JH has tried to police up his act and abide by the league's guidelines but part of the problem is that it is a moving target. Every hit JH makes on any WR or QB comes under scrutiny.

Fletcher's hit on Brady last Sunday also serves as a prime example as to how "Flag Happy" the refs are for protecting those precious little NFL QBs.

Personally, I am getting sick of the entire process of pussification of the NFL. What next; flags strapped to their waist?

MMTC


"Second, as Herm Edwards stated, JH DID NOT lower his helmet. IF you call planting your mask in someone's chest lowering your helmet, then maybe you are right, but that is NOT the way I see it."

He didn't launch himself, but he definitely lowered his helmet.



"IF you call planting your mask in someone's chest lowering your helmet, then maybe you are right, but that is NOT the way I see it."

If his facemask ended up in his chest, he wouldn't have had a concussion!!!! It was a helmet to helmet hit that caused McCoy to have a concussion.

Agree on the Brady-Fletcher penalty, but Harrison-McCoy was a totally different situation. Harrison has a history of head hunting and it needs to stop now.

"Every hit JH makes on any WR or QB comes under scrutiny."

For good reason, he is a dirty player.

2 game suspension.


Suh is known to be dirty, you say JH is a dirty player.

JH has never tried to stomp a player laying on the ground. He only lays them out.

Suh gets ONLY 2 game suspension for an intentional and malicious outburst and then LIES about it when questioned, and you think JH should get the same suspension for playing hard.

Take any great LB from any team in the league. All of the HoF that we all hold in high esteem and regards and look at their play. What made them great? Was it their soft kitten like grip that gently wrapped around a QB and sofltly put him to the ground....OR....was it the vicious, manimal like beastly pounding they gave the opposition? what? can't hear you, there are too many whiny-**** FF fans in my ear.

What do these guys have in common?

Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Lawrence Taylor, Mike Singletary, Bill Romanoski, Ray Nitschke, Chuck Howley, Nick Buoniconti, Ray Lewis.

THESE are the type of Linebackers I WANT TO SEE play. And I say, that NO MORE than the 1 game suspension should be administered for someone trying to play to their standards.

Do you realize that NONE of these guys would be allowed to play their game today?

Sad

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December 13, 2011  04:31 PM ET
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There shouldn't have been ANY SUSPENSION. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a Steeler fan. The hit is not illegal per the rulebook. I say use this hit as the example by which to change the rulebook. But Harrison should not be punished for a hit that was not illegal.It's nonsense, really.

I feel the same way but here on FN there is such a Anti-Steeler/Harrison faction that trolls the site ,.........well, you know the rest.

December 13, 2011  04:49 PM ET

Ha! Gotta love the Steeler fan reaction to this guy. The suspension should have been six games and an admonition that the next infraction will result in a lifetime ban. You can't just decide to ignore the rules of the game.

December 13, 2011  04:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

There shouldn't have been ANY SUSPENSION. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a Steeler fan. The hit is not illegal per the rulebook. I say use this hit as the example by which to change the rulebook. But Harrison should not be punished for a hit that was not illegal.It's nonsense, really.

AGREE 1000%. Colt was out of the pocket running too NOT that that matters to the commish.

December 13, 2011  04:51 PM ET
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Ha! Gotta love the Steeler fan reaction to this guy. The suspension should have been six games and an admonition that the next infraction will result in a lifetime ban. You can't just decide to ignore the rules of the game.

Why not? The commish does!!!

December 13, 2011  04:53 PM ET
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Why not? The commish does!!!

You guys would feel a lot differently if all of the serious violators weren't on your favorite team.

December 13, 2011  04:55 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

You guys would feel a lot differently if all of the serious violators weren't on your favorite team.

No, I wouldn't! I don't think Fletcher should be fined or suspended for his hit on Brady either!

December 13, 2011  04:58 PM ET
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No, I wouldn't! I don't think Fletcher should be fined or suspended for his hit on Brady either!

When a star player on your team is seriously injured by a cheap shot, you'll be singing a different tune.

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December 13, 2011  05:22 PM ET

at what point does the league realize that a QB opens himself up to a hit by tucking and running? Colt is the one that decided to make a last second decision and placed himself in harms way by chucking and ducking.....

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December 13, 2011  05:39 PM ET

Oh my Lord. You guys are starting to sound worse than Packers homers

December 13, 2011  09:54 PM ET
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at what point does the league realize that a QB opens himself up to a hit by tucking and running? Colt is the one that decided to make a last second decision and placed himself in harms way by chucking and ducking.....

He doesn't duck. He throws the ball. Harrison leads with his helmet.

Fletcher shouldn't even have been penalized. The ref missed the call in the redskins game.

Ref got it right in this one. Not sure WHICH side says one game is correct. Right is wrong with the multi game. It was mid play. Suh's was clearly a dead ball foul and clearly against ANY rule. There is no SUH comparison.

Not sure if left is saying one game is correct...

December 13, 2011  09:59 PM ET

AND herm is an idiot. Not because of this (although it helps the case) as he has a long resume of idiotic comments.

December 14, 2011  12:15 AM ET

Herm is a joke! IDK why he hasn't been fired yet.

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December 14, 2011  08:37 AM ET

he could of blasted mccoy. if he doesnt want to get hit then stay in the damn pocket. simple enough..

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