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  • 12/15/2011, 11:51AM ET

Agreed upon NFL picks of the week. Week 15

OlderthanDirt (88-37-13) vs DJRoxalot (1085-669-126)
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All games. Straight up. No spread or score BS, a win is a win, a loss is a loss.

Rapid fire due to tonight's game.

Jacksonville at Atlanta = Atlanta

Saturday

Dallas at Tampa Bay = Tampa Bay

Sunday

Miami at Buffalo = Buffalo

Carolina at Houston = Houston

Washington at NY Giants = Giants

Tennessee at Indy = Tennessee

Green Bay at Kansas City = Green Bay

Seattle at Chicago = Chicago

New Orleans at Minnesota = New Orleans

Cincinnati at St. Louis = Cincinnati

Detroit at Oakland = Detroit

NY Jets at Philadelphia = Philadelphia

Cleveland at Arizona = Arizona

New England at Denver = New England

Baltimore at San Diego = Baltimore

Monday

Pittsburgh at San Francisco = Tell you in last Argument.....


Not much to argue here in first listing. There are several games that could go either way this week as well as a few that you could just about bet your house on.

Will argue with changes DJ comes up with.

This is an agreed upon predetermined topic TD.

I guess that is all.

Bring it Cal Boy!


Jacksonville@Atlanta=Atlanta

Saturday

Dallas@Tampa Bay=Dallas

Sunday

Miami@Buffalo=Buffalo

Carolina@Houston=Carolina.

Washington@NY Giants=Giants

Tennessee@Indy=Tennessee

Green Bay@Kansas City=Green Bay

Seattle@Chicago=Chicago

New Orleans@Minnesota=New Orleans

Cincinnati@St. Louis=Cincinnati

Detroit@Oakland=Oakland

NY Jets@ Philadelphia=Philadelphia

Cleveland@Arizona=Arizona

New England@Denver=New England

Baltimore@San Diego=Baltimore

Monday

Pittsburgh@ San Francisco=Pittsburgh. Guessing you are taking the 49ers, that's why you want to argue it last.

Good luck.


Okay, the Dallas / TB game is One I just went on a hunch. Dallas is 0-2 last two weeks and are down mentally. That usually spells disaster for them when Romo tries to do too much. It was a hunch; or a typo, not sure which; not based on anything else.

However, the Carolina vs Houston game. Houston has clinched a PO spot sure, but a first week bye would go a very long way toward their playoff path. The more wins they can put on the board the better. No reason at all to let off the pedal this week. Their defense is still top notch and they are at home. They WILL survive the Newton attack and win.

Detroit and Oakland. I KNEW WE WOULD BE ARGUING THIS ONE. Once a homer always a homer right DJ?

But seriously, even without Suh, the Lions prevail this week. Oakland's last home win was against a Cutler-less Bears. Their two home games prior to that they LOST to Denver and got blew out by KC.

Other than your homeristic views of the Raiders, (or is this game on your Christmas wish list?), I don't see where they beat a surging Lions team.


Dallas is going to beat the Bucs.

The Bucs jumped out to a 14-0 lead vs Jax, but allowed 41 straight points to the Jags!!! Dallas and Romo will tear up that defense. I know they lost DeMarco Murray, but Felix Jones stepped in and ran for 106 yards on just 16 carries.

Josh Freeman has not looked good at all this season. He seems to have regressed.

If I was a blind homer, I would have argued Oakland over Green Bay. I didn't. Oakland's run defense isn't that good. It is the weakness of their defense. Detroit is injury prone at the RB position. They have lost Jahvid Best and Kevin Smith to injury. Smith might play.

Palmer has played well vs the Lions. He has completed 66% of his passes for 247ypg, with 4 TD's against the Lions. He is 2-0 vs Detroit. Denarius Moore will be back and that is a good thing since he is Oakland's best deep threat and Oakland's offense has been way too predictable the last 2 weeks. MTC.

I know the Texans clinched the South, but this is my upset special of the week. Carolina will outscore Houston with Yates managing the game for the Texans.

Just a hunch, like your TB game. But, I think has a much more realistic chance.


Okay bucs win.

Panthers and Raiders do not>

I am surprised that you bring up Palmer's stats against the Lions. That was when he was with the Bengals and had a combined 21-11 record those two years while the Lions had a combined record of 7-25 during those same years.

This is not the same Lions team he faced the other two times. And what's more "non revealing" about the stats you quoted is that they get lopsided due to the one game he had against them in which he completed 78% of his passes against a 5-11 team.

What it also does not show is that he had 2 INTs in both games against them. So, 4 picks in two games is not very good. Will probably be 6 for 3 after Sunday's game.

Panthers win against Washington, Tampa, Minnesota and Indy. They will NOT beat Houston this week. In fact CN better put his head on a swivel because the Texans D is coming for him. I understand this is your upset alert of the week.

But in predictions, how have you faired against mine this year. Let's take a quick look back.

I had LSU you had Bama
I had UCLA you had ASU
I had Okie State you had OU

these are the ones we debated most. I was 3-0.

You argue well, predict like doodoo.


Detroit's run defense is 27th in the NFL, allowing 136ypg. Not to mention, 31st, with 5.1ypc.

The Raiders have the 6th best run offense. The last time, Bush faced a run defense this bad, he had 157 yards against the Chargers.

Michael Bush will have a good game and Palmer will pick and choose where he throws the ball. This will help Palmer so he doesn't have to try and win it like he has had to the last 2 weeks vs Miami GB. And with Moore likely to return, he will have his favorite deep guy, 18.4ypc when CP has thrown him the ball.

The Texans haven't faced a QB like Cam Newton. He is a dual threat that can pass and run. He some offensive firepower with WR Steve Smith, TE's Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen, and RB's DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. They average 24.1ppg, 11th in the NFL.

Carolina has won 2 of their last 3 and are starting to win games with their young QB. Carolina is going to be spoiler team these last 3 weeks and surprise some people, starting with the Texans. They are playing on the road, but Houston is starting their 3rd string QB and this game is ripe for an upset imo.

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December 15, 2011  12:16 PM ET
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Tonights game doesn't really matter, Hee Haw. We will agree on that.LOL.

Depends on who you ask. But, I think we can both agree Atlanta wins.

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December 15, 2011  12:25 PM ET

Denver over New England.

For the changes, I think Dallas beats Tampa, but Detroit shouldn't have much trouble from Oakland.

December 15, 2011  12:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Tonights game doesn't really matter, Hee Haw. We will agree on that.LOL.

The game matters to me... I really hope the Jags win (although I don't see that happening)

December 15, 2011  12:27 PM ET
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Denver over New England.For the changes, I think Dallas beats Tampa, but Detroit shouldn't have much trouble from Oakland.

Detroit really could go either way. They have been too inconsistant, have no run game, and trouble on D.

December 15, 2011  01:07 PM ET

Jets.

December 15, 2011  01:10 PM ET
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Denver over New England.For the changes, I think Dallas beats Tampa, but Detroit shouldn't have much trouble from Oakland.

I really wanted to pick Denver in that game, just could not pull the trigger on that one.

December 15, 2011  01:13 PM ET

and before you ask, yes, 1 in a row is surging....for them anyway

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December 15, 2011  02:19 PM ET
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That game may be very similar to the Lions-Broncos game.

or simular to the Viking Broncos game. The pats D is horriffic, look what Washington did to them.

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December 15, 2011  02:53 PM ET
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Changing your mind, hee Haw?LOL.

On what?

December 15, 2011  02:53 PM ET
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Don't think they throw against the Pats. Or run the ball much.28-17, Pats.

And that's close to 45-14?

December 15, 2011  02:56 PM ET
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Detroit really could go either way. They have been too inconsistant, have no run game, and trouble on D.

Palmer will likely throw a few balls to the wrong team. It is what he does...

December 15, 2011  02:57 PM ET
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or simular to the Viking Broncos game. The pats D is horriffic, look what Washington did to them.

^^

December 15, 2011  02:57 PM ET
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Don't think they throw against the Pats. Or run the ball much.28-17, Pats.

Why wouldn't they throw against the Pats?

 
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