- 12/15/2011, 11:51AM ET
OlderthanDirt said 12/15, 11:51 AM
All games. Straight up. No spread or score BS, a win is a win, a loss is a loss.
Rapid fire due to tonight's game.
Jacksonville at Atlanta = Atlanta
Dallas at Tampa Bay = Tampa Bay
Miami at Buffalo = Buffalo
Carolina at Houston = Houston
Washington at NY Giants = Giants
Tennessee at Indy = Tennessee
Green Bay at Kansas City = Green Bay
Seattle at Chicago = Chicago
New Orleans at Minnesota = New Orleans
Cincinnati at St. Louis = Cincinnati
Detroit at Oakland = Detroit
NY Jets at Philadelphia = Philadelphia
Cleveland at Arizona = Arizona
New England at Denver = New England
Baltimore at San Diego = Baltimore
Pittsburgh at San Francisco = Tell you in last Argument.....
Not much to argue here in first listing. There are several games that could go either way this week as well as a few that you could just about bet your house on.
Will argue with changes DJ comes up with.
This is an agreed upon predetermined topic TD.
I guess that is all.
Bring it Cal Boy!
DJRoxalot said 12/15, 12:17 PM
Green Bay@Kansas City=Green Bay
New Orleans@Minnesota=New Orleans
NY Jets@ Philadelphia=Philadelphia
New England@Denver=New England
Pittsburgh@ San Francisco=Pittsburgh. Guessing you are taking the 49ers, that's why you want to argue it last.
OlderthanDirt said 12/15, 01:06 PM
Okay, the Dallas / TB game is One I just went on a hunch. Dallas is 0-2 last two weeks and are down mentally. That usually spells disaster for them when Romo tries to do too much. It was a hunch; or a typo, not sure which; not based on anything else.
However, the Carolina vs Houston game. Houston has clinched a PO spot sure, but a first week bye would go a very long way toward their playoff path. The more wins they can put on the board the better. No reason at all to let off the pedal this week. Their defense is still top notch and they are at home. They WILL survive the Newton attack and win.
Detroit and Oakland. I KNEW WE WOULD BE ARGUING THIS ONE. Once a homer always a homer right DJ?
But seriously, even without Suh, the Lions prevail this week. Oakland's last home win was against a Cutler-less Bears. Their two home games prior to that they LOST to Denver and got blew out by KC.
Other than your homeristic views of the Raiders, (or is this game on your Christmas wish list?), I don't see where they beat a surging Lions team.
DJRoxalot said 12/15, 01:35 PM
Dallas is going to beat the Bucs.
The Bucs jumped out to a 14-0 lead vs Jax, but allowed 41 straight points to the Jags!!! Dallas and Romo will tear up that defense. I know they lost DeMarco Murray, but Felix Jones stepped in and ran for 106 yards on just 16 carries.
Josh Freeman has not looked good at all this season. He seems to have regressed.
If I was a blind homer, I would have argued Oakland over Green Bay. I didn't. Oakland's run defense isn't that good. It is the weakness of their defense. Detroit is injury prone at the RB position. They have lost Jahvid Best and Kevin Smith to injury. Smith might play.
Palmer has played well vs the Lions. He has completed 66% of his passes for 247ypg, with 4 TD's against the Lions. He is 2-0 vs Detroit. Denarius Moore will be back and that is a good thing since he is Oakland's best deep threat and Oakland's offense has been way too predictable the last 2 weeks. MTC.
I know the Texans clinched the South, but this is my upset special of the week. Carolina will outscore Houston with Yates managing the game for the Texans.
Just a hunch, like your TB game. But, I think has a much more realistic chance.
OlderthanDirt said 12/15, 02:07 PM
Okay bucs win.
Panthers and Raiders do not>
I am surprised that you bring up Palmer's stats against the Lions. That was when he was with the Bengals and had a combined 21-11 record those two years while the Lions had a combined record of 7-25 during those same years.
This is not the same Lions team he faced the other two times. And what's more "non revealing" about the stats you quoted is that they get lopsided due to the one game he had against them in which he completed 78% of his passes against a 5-11 team.
What it also does not show is that he had 2 INTs in both games against them. So, 4 picks in two games is not very good. Will probably be 6 for 3 after Sunday's game.
Panthers win against Washington, Tampa, Minnesota and Indy. They will NOT beat Houston this week. In fact CN better put his head on a swivel because the Texans D is coming for him. I understand this is your upset alert of the week.
But in predictions, how have you faired against mine this year. Let's take a quick look back.
I had LSU you had Bama
I had UCLA you had ASU
I had Okie State you had OU
these are the ones we debated most. I was 3-0.
You argue well, predict like doodoo.
DJRoxalot said 12/15, 06:01 PM
Detroit's run defense is 27th in the NFL, allowing 136ypg. Not to mention, 31st, with 5.1ypc.
The Raiders have the 6th best run offense. The last time, Bush faced a run defense this bad, he had 157 yards against the Chargers.
Michael Bush will have a good game and Palmer will pick and choose where he throws the ball. This will help Palmer so he doesn't have to try and win it like he has had to the last 2 weeks vs Miami GB. And with Moore likely to return, he will have his favorite deep guy, 18.4ypc when CP has thrown him the ball.
The Texans haven't faced a QB like Cam Newton. He is a dual threat that can pass and run. He some offensive firepower with WR Steve Smith, TE's Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen, and RB's DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. They average 24.1ppg, 11th in the NFL.
Carolina has won 2 of their last 3 and are starting to win games with their young QB. Carolina is going to be spoiler team these last 3 weeks and surprise some people, starting with the Texans. They are playing on the road, but Houston is starting their 3rd string QB and this game is ripe for an upset imo.
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