- 12/18/2011, 09:54PM ET
DJRoxalot said 12/18, 10:03 PM
Now, I am no Tebowner, Tebow-ite, whatever they call his little fan club, but I do watch (a lot) of college and pro football. But, you are laying blame at Tim Tebow's feet for the 41-23 loss to the Patriots?
That is insane.
Tebow played pretty well imo. He completed 11 of 22 passes for 194 yards (not getting into the is he a traditional QB discussion or not, most know where I stand on this) with a TD.
He also ran 12 times for 93 yards and 2 TD's.
The Broncos defense strugled mightily in this game. They allowed Tom Brady to complete 23 of 34 passes for 320 yards and 2 TD's.
They allowed the Pats to run 36 times for 141 yards and 3 TD's.
That's 461 yards of total offense and 41 points.
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asifyouknow said 12/18, 10:30 PM
Lots of stats ..good for you BUT the facts are that the Broncos coaching staff don't have the confidence in him to give their QB a full (real NFL QB) game plan, they sort of feed him baby food, one spoon at the time...If he is a legit first rounder ..why not let him at leat attempt to be a real NFL QB?..you know why they don't turn him loose, becouse there is nothing there..period....he is working with a pop gun of an arm.
DJRoxalot said 12/18, 10:42 PM
"BUT the facts are that the Broncos coaching staff don't have the confidence in him to give their QB a full (real NFL QB) game plan"
A good coaching staff institutes a gameplan that caters to their players strengths. Tebow's stength is running the ball and playing in the spread formation.
He doesn't have the best accuracy, but he is 7-2 as a starting QB this season. For some bizarre reason, his fellow players rally around him. They believe in him more than they did in Kyle Orton, neckbeard and all.
"If he is a legit first rounder ..why not let him at leat attempt to be a real NFL QB?"
They did. Against Miami and in the fiasco of a loss to Detroit.
Fox decided to do something unconventional, something that took balls to do. Implement some option plays against the Raiders in Tebow's 3rd start. And it has worked out pretty well for Denver.
You need to bring it a little more than that.
asifyouknow said 12/18, 11:05 PM
"A good coaching staff institutes a game plan that caters to their players strengths. Tebow's strength is running the ball and playing in the spread formation."
This is a coaching stuff that doesn't want this guy , there is a GM who doesn't want this guy, there are probably receivers that don't want this guy.
The only reason he got a shot was because the FANS asked for him, the management buckled to the wishes of the ticket.
Pressure from fans gave this guy a shot, a multi million dollar organisation had to change all their plans just to please one guy..WHO DOES THAT in professional; sports...NOBODY.
Do you really believe that FOX is a happy camper right now? Do you think Elway is a happy camper right now?
They are not , they got trapped in the Tebow hysteria just like many of your fans are...just hype , a one year wonder.
The guy is a stiff and not a QB for the future, but again maybe Denver will bring back the two tight end set with a full house..if you don't know what a full house is just look at any football film from 1940
DJRoxalot said 12/19, 10:37 AM
Players think Tebow should be starting. Want some proof?
"It's the NFL. I have no say so what goes in the personnel department, but one thing is, at the end of the day, nobody can take away his wins," said linebacker Wesley Woodyard. "That's something he's been doing. He's been winning. He finds a way."
"Do you really believe that FOX is a happy camper right now? Do you think Elway is a happy camper right now?
Seriously? Yes, I think they are both happy. They are 8-6 and in first place in the AFC West, after starting the season at 1-4 and looking like they were in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes.
Popular saying in sports: Winning cures all. They are 7-2 with Timmy Boy playing QB. He has 6 4th quarter comebacks. Pretty impressive way to start a career.
Is it all Tebow? No, as I have said before the defense has started to play better over the last 9 games. But, Fox has put his team in a position to win and that is ultimately the HC's job. And the players have executed very well.
They haven't been running the option a lot as of late, not that I have seen anyway. Have you been watching the games?
asifyouknow said 12/19, 03:09 PM
Wow I'm loosing 21 to 8..I guess you just called all your buddies to vote, honestly you are speaking from a brain washed of reality or as is called... Tebow Zombieism.
You are on a bandwagon along with millions of fans, many of them are not real NFL fans, they are the occasional ones, you know, the ones that watch Golf only when Tiger Woods is winning or what women's tennis as long as the cute one with the nice legs is playing in the finals and in this case as long as Tebow wins.
Soon this will be over and the locus will move on to the next victim, then the Broncos won't feel the pressure from their fans and Always will go back to his original plan.
They will get a true QB in the Elway mold.
Please book mark this prediction, I want you to come back at me if it does not happen, I will not tell you "I told you so"
Tebow will be nothing but a memory a Cabbage patch doll if you will.
I understand that my answer is not in line with what we are trying to do here, but it does speak to two issues:
One: This guy just can't pass the ball at an NFL laval
Two: He is not what the new Broncos management was looking for in a QB .
As always , time will tell.
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