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- 12/21/2011, 11:10AM ET
Worse team in the NBA
J-Business said 12/21, 11:10 AM
I was considering a number of candidates
Phoenix will be bad
Cleveland will probably be worse
Washington will stink
But the worse team in the NBA will be.............
The Charlotte Bobcats
This team will stink
Their top veteran "leader" is Corey Maggette. Yes.
They have their hopes in the young talent of Kimba Walker
An undersized college shooting guard, turned NBA PG
This guy has Shawn Respert/Sherman Douglass type game
Their big free agent signing was Dante Cunningham and Eduardo Najera
The Bobcats are expecting quality minutes from DeSagana Diop
I can't even imagine how this team will begin to compete
IRB - Hawks are back! said 12/21, 11:37 AM
That is a decent pick. But I believe mine will probably be worse. The Toronto Raptors.
As far as "veteran leadership" goes with the Raptors. They have a few guys, Jamal Magloire, Jose Calderon...etc. No one that has really done anything recently or (in Calderons case) ever.
Their big Free Agent Signing was Aaron Gray, who has looked lost his whole career in the league. (btw, Cunningham has not signed his offer sheet yet).
Andrea Bargniani is not ready to be a lead guy in the NBA. He is big yes, and he is even talented, but he is not the kind of big man that can carry a team. While Demar Derozan did show some improvments last year, i do not believe it is enough to elevate this team to any kind of level.
I actually have an opposing oppinion on kemba walker. With his quickness, and ability to create shots for himself, I think he will be a great compliment to DJ Augistin at the Point. They can speed up or slow down the game at will by subbing the two back and forth.
Another piece of good news is that Bismack Biyombo is coming back
need I remind you that the Bobcats nearly made the playoffs after dealing away Jackson and Wallace?
J-Business said 12/21, 02:39 PM
The one thing you have to realize is that the Raptors have international players.
While they may not be the high flyers that American players are, they have good fundamentals and play team basketball
The Raptors may never compete for a title with this team but they'll generally remain competitive.
On top of that, they return the core players of their team
Bargnani
Amir Johnson
Davis
DeRozan
Jose Calderon
Barbosa
In fact, DeRozan averaged 17pts per game last yr and shot 47%
Another yr with Calderon and his 4-1 asst to turnover ratio and that's a pretty decent backcourt
Keep in mind that last season 2 out of 3 of the Raptors top scorers (Bargnani and Basbosa) missed over 20 games a piece
The Bobcats on the other hand have turned their team over to:
Augustin - 14 pts, 6 assts
Diaw - 11 pts, 5 rebs
Maggette - 12pts, 1 assts, 3.5 rebs
Thomas at PF averaged 5 rebs per game
Henderson at SG shot 19% from the 3pt range
I honestly believe that this apart of Jordan's plan
Be horrible for a yr or two
Pick up a few good draft picks and then compete in 2016
There's no other explanation
Right now it is truly garbage time in Charlotte
IRB - Hawks are back! said 12/22, 09:05 AM
you make solid points. But lets do the old lineup comparison:
Kemba/Augstine
Henderson/KEMBA
Boris Diaw
Tyrus Thomas/ Bismack
DeSanga Diop/Bismack
This gives the Bobcats a great inside presence. Diaw is now weighing in over 300 pounds, and with a legit 7 footer in Diop and anoth one close in Thomas, they will have some size.
BTW, Thomas averaged only 21 minutes last year, so with an increased role, you should expect an uptick in rebounding numbers.
Charlotte has a huge advantage with Kemba and Bismack coming off the bench, they will get fresh legs with a lot of talent coming in. I like to call it depth. This is something I do not see a lot of with Toronto. Leonardo Barbosa would be the most capable back up on the team, but he is alone in this category.
I do believe that the Bobcats are in rebuilding mode, but I honestly think they have a great start here. Kemba will be the NBA ROY barring injury, as he can score with the best of them. Thomas is young, and Biyombo should get some valuable experience as the season progresses. Considering how weak the East is after the top tier, I would not be shocked if the Bobcats were in the playoff hunt come February
J-Business said 12/23, 01:51 AM
Bargnani and DeRozan are far better than anyone on Charlotte.
Far better
Bargnani averaged 21 pts, while DeRozan averaged 19 pts per game last season.
No one on Charlotte comes close.
DeSagana Diop averaged 1.3 pts, 2.5 rebs last season
Melvin Ely, their current starting center averaged 2.3 pt, 2.5 rebs
This is the bulk of their front court.
Bismarck Bimayo has never played an NBA game, didn't come from the NCAA and is a totally unproven commodity.
Rest assured that these kind of players, rarely shine in their first season in the NBA
Look at NBA history. The league's waste heap is filled with tweeners like Kemba.
He isn't a great shooter, so he won't be playing much at that position.
This is one of the greatest pg eras in the NBA, so he'll be facing stiff competition almost every night at the PG.
While Toronto will not be good, they retain the core of their team and have a players who can score.
The Charlotte Bobcats do not have either of those luxuries. This team will be absolutely horrible and will easily be the worst team in the NBA
IRB - Hawks are back! said 12/23, 08:37 AM
The Raptors return their core of Crappy players....why is that a plus? I dont see them staying pat and not going out making noise as a positive thing.
Kemba will suceed in this league, that is a fact. look at Jamal Crawford, Steph Curry, Jason Terry...all guys that are cut from the same cloth as Kemba Walker. I mean hell, even JJ Reddick has become servicable.
While Bargiani is a solid player, he lacks the explosivness needed in the NBA. You mentioned a few arguments back that they play a European style of basketball, and while that style works against team USA in international play, it will not translate to sucess in the NBA. The rules are different here, big men play differently here. Their style of play will not suceed here.
Magette looked pretty good last night btw, in limited action.
I will take the athleticism and scoring abilities of Kemba/Augustine over Calderon anyday.
I guess it comes down to this, Charlotte has more athleticism and depth. These two things are HUGE in the NBA. You need gaurds who can create their own shots, and bigs who can bang around in the paint. Charlotte has both of these things, while Toronto is lacking both.
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That is a decent pick. But I believe mine will probably be worse. The Toronto Raptors.
As far as "veteran leadership" goes with the Raptors. They have a few guys, Jamal Magloire, Jose Calderon...etc. No one that has really done anything recently or (in Calderons case) ever.
Their big Free Agent Signing was Aaron Gray, who has looked lost his whole career in the league. (btw, Cunningham has not signed his offer sheet yet).
Andrea Bargniani is not ready to be a lead guy in the NBA. He is big yes, and he is even talented, but he is not the kind of big man that can carry a team. While Demar Derozan did show some improvments last year, i do not believe it is enough to elevate this team to any kind of level.
I actually have an opposing oppinion on kemba walker. With his quickness, and ability to create shots for himself, I think he will be a great compliment to DJ Augistin at the Point. They can speed up or slow down the game at will by subbing the two back and forth.
Another piece of good news is that Bismack Biyombo is coming back from Spain, and he should add some depth and versatility/size of the bench.
need I remind you that the Bobcats nearly made the playoffs last year AFTER they dealt away Wallace and Jackson. i think they will be right on the cusp on the playoffs again this year. While Toronto finishes dead last in the league.
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