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  • 01/10/2012, 12:48AM ET

The NHL suspended Marchand for breaking a rule that he... didn't break.

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Shanahan even posted said rule, claiming that "clipping" required contact "at or below the knee" while presenting a video of Marchand hitting him at waist height, high thigh at the most. THis is a black and white rule. "...at or below the knee." How can you suspend someone for breaking a rule that he clearly doesn't break based on the video evidence provided to justify the suspension? Mind.Blown.



Still not seeing where that was knee or lower. Nice argument, though.


How can you suspend someone for breaking a rule that he clearly doesn't break based on the video evidence provided to justify the suspension?

I've provided the Shanahan video that you referred to in your opening argument. If you freeze frame the video at :37 seconds you'll see what you're looking for. Marchand hits Salo at knee level. Marchand is 'clearly' low bridging.

You've gone as far as to say the video shows the hit to have been possibly waist high? What video are you watching?

In his own explanation of the play, Marchand said "when you see a guy that's 6'5" coming at you your natural instinct is to protect yourself."(Salo is 6'3")

Um...that really isn't the best lie you ever heard is it?

I admire your loyalty to the Bruins, but Brad Marchand as an individual OR the Bruins as a team are not the entire entity of the NHL. Nor are they the only ones to be held accountable by the NHL Department of Player Safety for misconducts.

Marchand hasn't been in the league very long. But, in the short time he has been around he's built a reputation as a low bridge hitter and on THIS particular hit he is guilty of clipping.

MARCHAND CLIPPED SALO= 5 GAME SUSPENTION


Again, I don't care about anything other than the facts. The fact is, he never made contact "at or below" the knee. Never happened. If you want to get into semantics, that's fine. That's not my argument. Watch the way Salo flips. He's got him right on the thigh, which by DEFINITION OF THE RULE, isn't clipping. I've heard of selective listening, but selective vision is new to me. My guess is this argument is turning into a popularity contest, because anyone with half-decent eyesight can see that he DIDN'T HIT HIM IN THE KNEE.


I'm in my 50's dude. My eyesight failed me years ago. So, I decided to watch the video one more time just to be fair. If you freeze frame the video at :37 seconds, Marchand is crouching down as he goes into the check.

Curiously, from the :37 second mark going forward.....you see Marchand hits Salo in the left knee. To me, it looks like in the back of the left knee. But, the recording was taken from a distance and then zoomed in afterward for the video. Not the best vantage point for me to say 'no harm, no foul'.

One thing the video does explain in detail are the FACTS. The narrative presented by Shanahan gives a complete break-down account of the FACTS. The FACTS aren't what YOU say they are.

I have heard of people using selective facts. I've even known people who've used them. You most certainly have been using them. Like Marchand saying he was trying to defend himself against Salo when Marchand was the aggressor in pursuit of Salo. That was a selective fact. It's not what really happened.

The NHL is still evolving. Rules have changed in the last 50 years and will change in the next 50 years. There are transitional moments in time. That's what you should be seeing.

January 10, 2012  12:55 AM ET

Damn you Hootz

January 10, 2012  01:07 AM ET

Shanny used to be one of my favorite players and I respected the hell out of his game.
Now he just comes across like a monotone zombie in his vids.

January 10, 2012  01:30 AM ET

Keep on arguing if you wish, but you know where all my material is coming from. You're dead wrong on your assessment of the play and the video proves it.

I would let this die if I were you . Although I don't mind arguing it out to the end. Your choice.

January 10, 2012  01:34 AM ET

5 games was far too much. Guarantee the league starts reviewing more and more hip checks.

January 10, 2012  01:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Keep on arguing if you wish, but you know where all my material is coming from. You're dead wrong on your assessment of the play and the video proves it.I would let this die if I were you . Although I don't mind arguing it out to the end. Your choice.

What part of the video are you saying proves your opponent is dead wrong?

January 10, 2012  02:12 AM ET
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What part of the video are you saying proves your opponent is dead wrong?

The part where it shows he hit at the knees. That's not legal but left says it is. What's you're take on it yoda. Tell me what I miised.

January 10, 2012  02:18 AM ET
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The part where it shows he hit at the knees. That's not legal but left says it is. What's you're take on it yoda. Tell me what I miised.

Left did not say hitting the knees is legal.

Left very clearly said that he hit him at waist height or high thigh.

January 10, 2012  02:31 AM ET

I know what he clearly said. I'm asking you if it was a legal hit according to the play. I'm under the impression that you're saying his view was in fact the way it happened.

January 10, 2012  02:32 AM ET

And good night Yoda, I'm logging off for the night.

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January 10, 2012  02:45 AM ET
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I know what he clearly said. I'm asking you if it was a legal hit according to the play. I'm under the impression that you're saying his view was in fact the way it happened.

You guys can make your own determination and arguments as to whether the hit was legal or not.
It doesn't matter what my view is. I was trying to get clarification on your view since you're the one doing the TD.
You put up a vid and said that it proves your opponent is dead wrong. I didn't know whether you were refering to the video footage itself, the NHL rulebook, or something else in Shanahan's explanations since there are several angles that could be argued on this.

January 10, 2012  02:52 AM ET
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Maybe I read what Hootz said wrong, but I took it as him saying it was an illegal hit, one that was at the knees and left is saying that the hit was legal, not that hitting the knees is legal.

Maybe that's what he meant.
I probably would have understood his stance better if an argument had been included in the TD.

January 10, 2012  02:52 AM ET
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And good night Yoda, I'm logging off for the night.

G'Night.

January 10, 2012  07:54 AM ET

I watch and watch and there was no intent for the hit to be knee level or lower, and I don't think it was suspension worthy.

January 10, 2012  07:57 AM ET

Thigh high at best, and then the chump claimed he had a concusion, after he skated off on his own power. Dude was embarrassed he got leveled by a smaller guy.

The officiating in that game was horrendous. Absolutely attrocious.

January 10, 2012  08:10 AM ET

Hit was thigh high, and Salo was embarrassed. If that hit happens in open ice, it's called cleanly...

January 10, 2012  09:15 AM ET

Hit in the back of the thigh. Not clipping at all and I don't see how he gets 5 games. And, I can't stand the Bruins.

January 10, 2012  09:21 AM ET

Five games is a bit much - but it clearly sends a signal that going after another player knees - or being in the vicinity of the knee will not be tolerated. Now let's see if Shanny is consistent with his message.

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