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Atro SYB said 01/13, 10:03 PM
NYY just traded for Pineda from SEA and signed Kuroda. That makes the rotation Sabathia, Pineda, Kuroda and Nova, with Burnett, Hughes and Garcia left to battle it out for the 5 spot. That makes me so happy. Burnett is such a douchehammer.
But that's it. That puts them ahead of the pack for the AL pennant. The loss of Montero has no effect on their catcher situation; he was never projected to stay behind the plate and they still have a great combination of youth, skill and experience with Martin, Cervelli and Romine.
Tampa has the pitching to compete, but not the bats. Texas' pitching is suspect, especially with Wilson off to Anaheim and their hopes riding on an unproven japanese pitcher and a 23-year-old converting reliever. Beltre will be 34. Cruz couldn't play 162 games if his momma slapped him, and he'll be 31. Hamilton will be 32 and is starting to show some fragility. Young will be 35. All these bats are approaching or arriving at the tail end of their primes. Sorry, Nolan. You had a couple of real good shots. Time for a taste of late October golf.
Detroit? Verlander. Iron clad. But then? Scherzer, Porcello and Fister. Playoffs? No. 2011=2012.
PCH-R. Barber best BUC eva said 01/13, 10:08 PM
Who really cares?
I mean, outslide of New York?
Derek Jeter and A-Rod make me sick..
a couple transactions got you hella excited.. lmao
Atro SYB said 01/13, 10:37 PM
Fantastic then. Next: LAA. Hard to complain about the 1-2 punch of Weaver and Haren. And Wilson is a great #3, no doubt. But after that, the NYY have the edge with the 4-5 depth, and it's no contest in the bullpen.
Then compare the bats: CF NYY - Granderson. CF LAA - Torii Hunter. Somebody get that guy a diaper filled with Icy-Hot. Bourjos? Great kid, nice bat, nice speed, and will be a stud in my opinion. But oh, that OPS. And like any other 25 year old, it'll be a couple years before he solidifies. Trout? See Bourjos, but younger. Wells? Haha. Hahaha.
RF LAA- Abreu? Another diaper dandy. Patience at the plate has served him well over the years, but not lately. Sunset time. But Swisher roams the short porch for the Yankees, and he'll have a nice regular season and absolutely crap it in the playoffs. I give him a slight edge because of his regular season chops, but man. He may as well be Abreu in October.
LF LAA - Jeremey Moore is their only natural LF. Who, you ask? Right. Any of the above LAA CFs could play there, but none will out-do Gardner. In his prime, stealin bases, hittin home runs, and stepping up big in the playoffs.
Infield next.
PCH-R. Barber best BUC eva said 01/14, 02:06 AM
eh, guy, who cares?
the Yankees are arguably the most hated team in the mlb.
I'll eat my brat @ Ted Turner stadium..
I like how "you guys" steal are men. Lets see, Justice in the late 90's, Gary Sheffield, Mark Texiera, and Andruw Jones..
what a quh winky dink.
Atro SYB said 01/16, 11:03 AM
Nothing like a sprited intellectual debate. Well, might as well finish up my part of it. Pujols is a great pickup, of course. But as compared to the Yankees infield of Cano, Teixiera, Jeter and Arod, it doesn't rise to that level. Jter and Arod are getting old and soforth, but for 2012, it's still a very formidable infield. Jeter raised his batting average .27 over 2010 last year, and raised his OPS+ from 90 to 97, so in view of his increased production, it's fair to assume that he's still got another good year in the tank. Arod is starting to show the effects of playing without steroids, so I guess NYY fans have gotta hope that he can get 150 games in this year and get himself a slash line closer to his 2009 numbers than his 2011 numbers. All those variables nothwithstanding, I'd take them and their potential over Callaspo and Aybar any day. Tex, obviously, is no Pujols, but he is still very productive with the RBI and his power game. A 117 OPS+ is nothing to stick your nose up at.
All of this, when looked at on the whole, demonstrates pretty clearly that the Yankees are a more complete team, and with the recent upgrade in pitching, they're the clear 2012 frontrunners.
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I think the Angels are the only other choice here.
williewilliejuan
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I don't see the bats. One man does not a lineup make. But I couldn't address Anaheim with the 1200 comment limit. They're next. But that rotation drops off pretty good after Haren and Weaver. For all the hype, Wilson ain't all that. He was fortunate enough to be the tallest midget in the room this offseason.
Atro SYB
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I agree that the bats aren't as formidable in the regular season. The pitching edge has to go to Anaheim with Weaver, Haren and Wilson. You also have to figure out how the Yankees bats will stop their disappearing act in the postseason.
williewilliejuan
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I like the Pineda acquisition, but I think Kuroda is going to get shelled in the AL East.
williewilliejuan
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Texas and Detroit still might be better than New York.
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Columbus, OH
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I loved tonight's development. With a very solid rotation, I'm very excited about this season.
YankeesFan
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I think NYY has the edge (obviously a biased opinion, but I do believe so). Last year, the Yankees scored the most runs in the AL, and losing Montero who only played late in September won't effect that.
So what you have now is the top offense in the AL (or at least top 2 or 3 even if you think they'll age a bit) with now a very good starting rotation and an already strong back of the bullpen with Robertson and Mo.
YankeesFan
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Sorry, they had the 2nd most runs in the AL. Boston had 8 more.
YankeesFan
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I really liked Montero, and I still think he's going to be a beast and one of the best hitters in the league at some point, but he's not a great catcher.
I guess you could convert him to first, or just try your luck with him behind the plate, but he's best suited as a DH.
So I think it was a good trade for both teams. The Yanks don't really need another bat, but they certainly needed some help in the pitching department. And the Mariners have a lot of good young pitchers, but need bats.
YankeesFan
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That's the term for when one's brains are dripping out from one's ears. No cure.
Atro SYB
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Watch out for the Orioles.
clemtheslowson
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Agreed. And this 2012 team is their best chance for them to get it done.
Atro SYB
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I'll never live it down. Never.
Atro SYB
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the yankees only really need kuroda to be a solid number 4 pitcher. if kuroda pitches 200 innings and has an era right around 4(a full run higher than last year), he will still win 16 or 17 games, and will be worth the signing. cc, pineda, nova, kuroda,hughes/garcia/burnett is a great rotation.
kook583
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Ha! This gave me a good laugh.
YankeesFan
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yeah, but the thing is, montero just didnt fit. the yankees dont need a catcher, and it doesnt really make sense to pencil a young guy like montero into the dh spot, especially since they are gonna have to start putting arod there. the lineup IS getting old, but either way, its still easily among the top in baseball. they have plenty of time to worry about getting another bat. furthermore, im sure they arent quite done anyway.
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