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- 01/18/2012, 03:00AM ET
UB bulls said 01/18, 03:00 AM
First, a little history of the DeSean Jackson saga. To help me, I've enlisted Joe Strummer.
One day is fine, and next is black
Heading into camp before last season, Jackson wanted a raise. He was in the final year of his rookie contract, one that left the Eagles' leading receiver and 2x Pro Bowler with 77 NFL receivers making more money than him.
The Eagles said no. Jackson stayed out of camp, skipped team meetings, got benched as punishment. Teammates said he wasn't giving 100% on every play. The Eagles went 8-8.
This indecision's bugging me
If you don't want me, set me free
The season over, everyone tried to make nice. Jackson apologized to his teammates; the owner said he would be willing to re-sign Jackson--at the right price.
If I go there will be trouble
The Eagles will miss his production if he leaves, no doubt.
And if I stay it will be double
But not leaving could result in a fractured locker room next year.
Should I Stay or should I go?
He's gone.
DeSean Jackson will play this fall for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Good luck Rude
Rudedog: Thankful said 01/18, 04:18 PM
Much credit to the creators of this tournament as this was another TD I flip-flopped on.
You have Jackson, who voiced his displeasure that his team was spending money on everyone else to come in and not giving him an overdue raise. He certainly had a gripe, but it doesn't warrant the attitude and actions in result. Matt Forte showed exactly how you play when you think a team owes you more money.
However, Jackson is too explosive for Philly to let go, which is why he'll be on the Eagles next season.
It's no secret that Jackson is an explosive player, but when you examine the numbers, they're mind-boggling. Last season he had just 47 catches, but over 1000 yards. No one had put up those numbers since 1989 when Flipper Anderson had 1146 yards on 44 catches.
But that isn't the only thing Jackson brings to the team. He also has three rushing TDs and four punt return TDs in his three-year tenure so far with the Eagles.
Jackson has said he isn't against be franchise tagged, has apologized to teammates and coaches, and now has support of teammates.
Philly is where he is and where he'll stay
UB bulls said 01/18, 11:07 PM
Good points Rude. I agree that Jackson is explosive. However, he won't be with the Eagles for two reasons:
The Eagles don't have the cap room to pay what he's worth
They have $14m in cap space. (eaglescap.com)
If they apply the Franchise tag to Jackson, that's $9m against the cap and is set by the NFL.
Upcoming first round pick is 2m (based on 2011 contracts for #15 pick)
Assume all other picks combined are another 2m
That leaves $1m to:
a) sign a backup QB (VY not under contract and Kafka is not ready)
b) sign a #2 RB (Ronnie Brown not under contract)
c) sign some backup D Tackles (Laws, Dixon and Landri not under contract)
Something has to give. Either pay Jackson less than the established market rate for a franchise WR and hope he's a happy camper anyway (ha!), or cut corners on roster depth.
The Eagles need bigger receivers anyway
Jackson is 5-10, Maclin is 6-0. Maclin is nearly as fast and had arguably better numbers last year without any drama. They don't need both on the roster. Draft Nick Toon (6-2) or Alshon Jeffery (6-4) to create different defensive mismatches.
Tampa Bay doesn't have these concerns. Details next
Rudedog: Thankful said 01/19, 02:42 PM
While Jackson isn't big, his explosiveness is impossible to overlook. In his time with the Eagles, he's had 18 touchdowns of 30 yards or more, 11 of those being 60 yards or more. And of those 11, 7 of them are receiving and 4 of them are punt return, meaning he's versatile and most likely the most explosive player in the game.
Two years ago, when Philly went 10-6, do you think anyone had a doubt that Jackson would resign? What about the year before that when he had more yards and the team went 11-5?
While the most recent season is burnt most into our minds, his years of dominating on the field can't be forgotten.
And most importantly, he has the support of the locker room and is a popular guy on the team. For a team that just went through a tumultuous season, does it make sense to let someone who the players like and is that dominant on the field go?
While it leaves them little wiggle room salary cap wise, I think we disagree on needing a QB or a #2 back as Dion Lewis was higher on the depth chart to end the year.
In the end, it's an affordable decision and one they shouldn't even think about. Bring Desean back.
UB bulls said 01/19, 09:51 PM
I think we disagree on needing a QB
Indeed we do. Vick missed three games last season, five the year before. Relying on Kafka as the only backup, with his 16 career pass attempts, is a huge risk. They need to spend cap money on a veteran backup QB.
he's versatile and most likely the most explosive player in the game
I completely agree. Jackson's among the top 10 WRs in the league. The going rate is around $9m, which is more than the Eagle have cap room for.
Tampa Bay, however, is $30m under the salary cap. No need to skimp on a backup QB because you lack cap space. Signing Jackson at $9m is a matter of holding a press conference and cranking out #10 replica jerseys.
They also have an offense where Jackson is valuable. Josh Freeman has the arm to hit Jackson down field--no decoy routes here. With Williams and Briscoe (both 6-2 210) as wideouts, they can line Jackson up in the slot and give defensive coordinators fits.
Tampa Bay has the money to sign Jackson, and they have the passing attack to make use of his talents.
Jackson will play in Tampa Bay.
Rudedog: Thankful said 01/21, 02:16 AM
Sorry for the delay. Unexpected ice storm made internet super spotty.
The problem I see with your Tampa Bay prediction is that the team already has a good, young core at WR. Mike Wililams is more than solid as a #1 option, Arrelious Benn and Preston Parker are a young combo, and Kellen Winslow at TE is another bonus.
The Tampa Bay Bucs are going to look to spend money defensively, not on a weapon that's as risky as Jackson.
Instead, Philly should hang on and don't fix what ain't broke. The offense was mired more by injury than inefficiency and inability. The pieces are there, and it's those pieces that got them to the playoffs two years ago. By changing it, you're not only changing the offense, but you're affecting the chemistry of the team.
Even with the injuries, Philly was 9th last year in yards, equal in rank to last year. They are 4th in points, one spot down from last year. They were 4th in yards per game, down just two spots from last year.
This offense is working for them. Breaking it up, and having DeSean play in a place he wouldn't fit in, is not the wise choice.
Great TD, UB
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