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HighwayCrossingFrog said 01/18, 10:11 AM
I have flirted with this idea before.. But have never BOLDLY said it in a TD, like this manner..
Big RBS are better than little RBs..
What I'm talking about is;
who would you rather give the ball to on 3rd and 1..
Rice, 5'8 OR Brandon Jacobs 6'4 264lbs?
The Big RBs are consitently fantastic at gaining the one yard..
Where as we saw Rice, last week-end get stopped, not only at 3rd and one, but also, 4th and inches, because Rice is not a battering ram and is not good at short yardage..
Way to go Rice! Your little puny butt, just cost your ravens 7 freakin points!
\MTC
MorningWoodley said 01/18, 10:37 AM
Your going to try to argue that little running backs aren't good when the top 2 rushers this year are some of the smallest running backs in the league?
Maurice Jones Drew, I 5'7 running back led the league this year with 1606 yards. Thats 250 more yards than the 2nd most rushing yards, who just so happens to be 5'8 Ray Rice. He had 1364 rushing yards this year.
Now lets compare these two guys to your favorite "big" running back, Brandon Jacobs. Brandon Jacobs is not going to have the same amount of yards because he isn't a starting running back but lets look at his yards per carry.
Maurice Jones Drew Average Yards per Carry: 4.7
Ray Rice Average Yards per Carry: 4.7
Brandon Jacobs Average Yards per Carry: 3.8
So at this point its not looking too good for your buddy Brandon, but just for fun lets look at another large running back, Legarrette Blount (starting RB for Tampa Bay).
Blount's Average Yards per Carry: 4.2
Blount's total yards: 781
Clearly smaller running backs are the elite of the league and are much better than larger running backs such as Brandon Jacobs.
MW
HighwayCrossingFrog said 01/18, 10:47 AM
Jacobs is an extreme example..
I used him, because he was the biggest RB I could think of..
The 3 ultra big guys that are in the top 10 are;
Turner 5'10 247lbs
Foster 6'1 229lbs
jackson 6'2 240lbs
Technically my favorite RB is Lynch, at 5'11 215lbs, technically he would be classified as a MEDIUM RB.. But for some reason, he looks bigger and more powerful on TV..
What do I look for in a RB?
Someone that is excellent at 3rd and 1 situations..
Ideally I would want to base my offense around the pass..
And use the running game for short yardage, and to keep the defense honest..
Ironically the 2 best RBs play for teams that dont have much in the QB position..
Which is the main reason why they racked up soooo many yards..
Lies, lies and statistics!
Did you watch the ravens vs texans game last weekend?
Did you see Rice get humiliated at 3rd and 1, on the goal line?
I guarantee you, Jacobs would have made that play and scored that TD..
Jacobs is significantly stronger than Rice, and hence harder to bring down..
The defensive linemen are huge guys, who have no problem tackling someone 5'8..
But someone 6'4? Yes that is hard to tackle.. They cant fall on top of 6'4
MorningWoodley said 01/18, 11:43 AM
Your telling me that the Ravens don't have a good quarterback? As much as I hate the Ravens, Joe Flacco is not a bad quarterback. He's taken his team to the playoffs every year he's been in the league. Thats not a bad quarterback.
If you don't wanna look at yards, lets look at touchdowns. Lesean McCoy, a smaller running back out of Pitt, led the league in touchdowns this year. LED THE LEAGUE!!! The guy is barely over 200 pounds and is 5'10.
Next, you talk about how Jacobs is harder to bring down than Rice because he is bigger. That's not true. Check the stats. Jacobs gets tackled one yard shorter than Rice on every run (as I explained in my last argument).
Jacobs is slower and easier to catch while rice has speed and agility. Who cares how easily he can be tackled if no one can get a hand on him like on this play. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ob9aATCFU
Finally, Jacobs fumbled one more time than Rice did this season even though he had significantly less carries. Even though Jacobs is much bigger he has problems holding onto the ball, probably because he gets hit so much since hes not as fast!
HighwayCrossingFrog said 01/18, 04:13 PM
The Big running backs specialize in 3rd and one downs.. You can not debate this..
The Big running backs specialize in beating up the defense.. You can not debate this..
Big running backs are stronger too, again you can not debate this..
Yeah, Jacobs is slower.. But that is something I am willing to live with..
Running backs you want strength..
Wide recievers you want speed..
Of all the great teams, hardly any had a great running back, like Rice, who had mega tons of yards during the regular season..
Im sure Ray Lewis and Urlacher lick their chops when they see MJD.. When they see Jacobs, they are thinking ah man, this isnt going to be easy to tackle this beast..
Joey Flaccid is not an elite QB, he ranked 19th in passing yards, so technically he is below average, yes..
MorningWoodley said 01/18, 05:18 PM
Thats great. They do specialize in 3rd and short and beating up the defense and some are stronger but the prompt is that they are better and the fact is, Big running backs ARE NOT!!!! better than small running backs. Stats prove this.
"Of all the great teams, hardly any had a great running back, like Rice, who had mega tons of yards during the regular season.."
3 out of the 4 teams left in the playoffs depend on their running game!
Here's my final point just to prove to you that big running backs aren't better. Why is Bradshaw the Giants starter over Jacobs? Because Bradshaw is faster, more agile, and better, because he is smaller than Jacobs!
Stats prove that smaller running backs are better, logic proves that they are better, and watching football proves that they are better. Clearly, smaller running backs are better!
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The size of the RB matters not one bit if their OL stinks!!!!!
Formerly from Ewa…
Sand Patch, PA
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This reminds me of a quote I saw on TV from one of the "big" running backs. I just forget who.
If you need one yard, I'll get you three.
If you need five yards, I'll get you three.
Grue
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You may want an RB who can convert a 3rd and 1, but I want an RB that can get me to 2nd and 1.
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Leroy Hoard.
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if brandon jacobs could get it done on first and second down, he would be in the game on first and second down....
kook583
Hoboken , NJ
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this is stupid. size has little to do with being an effective goal line back, its all about finding a tiny crease and hitting it. I'll take a small back who will hit the hole, over a big back that has two left feet.
O btw Jacobs sucks on the goaline, hes good at moving the pile sure but he is one of the most indecesive runners when hitting a hole that i've seen (him and McGahee go 1 and 2). It always used to baffle me why the Ravens used McGahee on the goaline instead of Rice.
The []__[]
Miami, FL
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Brandon Jacobs might not have a job next year.
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you can not examine a running back without looking at blocking, and offensive game planning, offensive lines...no hole, no yardage.
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Jacobs...needs a hole to get through, then, when he gets his pads turned upfield, then he is very dangerous. he is a good back at finding the hole, but great once he turns through it.
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I will take the 3rd and 1 guy when he does it 19 of 20 times over the guy getting to 2nd and 1 when he only does it 1 in 10.....
OlderthanDirt
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You have got to admire a RB that knows his skill set.......great quote
OlderthanDirt
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daggumit double posting sumbitc
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How can you have this debate/conversation without pointing out the different features of different sized backs? Almost the entire league has a combination of 2 running backs. Most of them have a little, fast guy and big bruiser for short yardage situations.
This seems incredibly dumb to me.
SloppyJaloppy
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Is this really a choice that anyone has to make? No
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It really depends on what you want your running game to do....
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