- 01/29/2012, 01:23AM ET
Atro SYB said 01/29, 01:23 AM
Miami needs a QB in the worst way. They've got the makings of a playoff team, but I don't think that, even with Manning, they'd have enough pieces in place to even make a serious playoff run. And sure, the weather's nice in Miami, but it's also nice in . . . Arizona.
Kolb hasn't been real impressive after signing that six-year deal with the Cardinals. Lucky for the Cards, they can part ways with him right now with minimal liability, and they're the perfect spot for Manning to land. It's the NFC West. Seahawks. Rams. Niners their biggest obstacle to the division championship.
Ken Whisenhunt. Perfect coach for Manning. Great offensive mind, took the team to the Superbowl not that long ago. And his experience with Warner is a big reason why Manning should be there. Whisenhunt had a perfect relationship with Warner and pretty much let him run the show at the line of scrimmage. They had, obviously, great success together with that strategy. And that's what Manning does. He runs the show from the line of scrimmage, and needs to continue doing that to be successful. Whisenhunt is the perfect enabler. And oh, what a familiar weapon Peyton would have in Fitzgerald.
(KMac) Lame Sauce said 01/29, 04:48 AM
This is Peyton Manning we're talking about here. He may just be THE MOST respected player in the whole NFL (James Harrison is a close second), and there's no way he's not going to sign with a contender.
I have one such team in mind. One that is one play away from the Super Bowl. Have you guessed it? It's certainly not the Dolphins, Titans, Jets, OR the Cardinals....
I'm going to stay in the NFC West for my pick...
San Francisco 49ers
The 49ers are a complete team, something that Manning has never had throughout his whole career. They have a dominant, bone-crushing defense, and a great, young offensive line. It's obvious to everyone that this team is a quarterback away from a Super Bowl Championship. No matter how great of a coach Jim Harbaugh is, Alex Smith is always going to be nothing more than a game manager, not a game changer.
The front office WILL make the splash. They will also draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft to sit behind Peyton (but that's for a different TD). If Peyton Manning can make Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon look good, imagine what he can do with Michael Crabtree and Josh Morgan?
49ers... 2013 Super Bowl Champs
Atro SYB said 01/29, 08:00 AM
That's a surprising pick, especially in light of the 49ers very recent success with Smith at the helm. And with him as their starting qb, I would have to respectfully disagree. This is a guy who for each of the five years prior to 2011 had a different offensive coordinator and had to work in a new system each and every year, and never knew if he was one interception away from being benched. Harbaugh comes in and says "this is our starter," and it all changed. Career year in yards, interception percentage, quarterback rating . . . at age 28, Smith is finally blossoming under a system designed around him.
Harbaugh is bursting with confidence in Smith and after a run to the NFC Championship game with Smith and San Fran's first playoff appearance since God knows when, I really don't see them investing the money in Manning. It's just unnecessary. They've got a clicking, young offense and a clicking young defense that, under Harbaugh, has shown that they're going to compete at a high level for the next few years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and don't risk problems in the locker room. He needs to be where a new QB is needed, and where he's 100% welcome. Hello Arizona.
(KMac) Lame Sauce said 01/29, 07:46 PM
Let me tell you a story young man.
In 1992 the Kansas City Chiefs signed Dave Krieg, who had just been to the pro bowl 2 years earlier, but not seen as a quarterback of the future for the Seattle Seahawks who let him go. He proceeded to lead the Chiefs to a 10-6 record, leading them to the playoffs where they were dispatched by the San Diego Chargers in a game that he played poorly.
Fast forward a month or two after the Super Bowl... The Kansas City Chiefs sign arguably the greatest qb to ever play the game.... Joe Montana.
Why do I bring this up? Because it's the same situation. Could the Chiefs win with Dave Krieg? Probably. Can the Niners win with Alex Smith? Probably.
But when the oppurtunity arises to add maybe the most prolific passer in the history of the NFL arises, you jump at that. Any way you can better your team, you do it.
By the way, the Chiefs kept Krieg, who became very useful in 1993, filling in for Joe Cool in 6 games due to injury....
Keep Smith. Sign Manning.
WIN A SUPERBOWL
Atro SYB said 01/30, 07:45 AM
Let me tell you another story - in 92, a 34 year old Krieg threw for 15 TDs and 12 interceptions. Pedestrian INT percentage of 2.9 and a QB rating of 79.9. And not for nothing but Krieg's 1992 playoff flop when the Chiefs got shut out and stomped in the Wildcard round is hardly the "same situation" when compared to Smith's 2011 run to the chamionship game. Krieg was 16 for 34 with 2 picks/ no TDs in that game, and was a guy who, in his previous 8 years, had averaged 21 TDs per game. Obviously on the decline and nothing more than a stopgap measure for KC.
Compare him to the 2011 Alex Smith - 17 touchdowns and 5 picks, a nice 1.1 INT percentage and 90.7 QB rating at 28 years old. We're talking two entirely different animals here - Krieg, a QB trying to regain the past, and Smith, a QB with a future. No wonder KC went and got Montana. Oh and by the way - keep Smith, sign Manning, "win a Superbowl?" For all your effort to sidle these two QBs up to one another, you skipped a salient point - Montana never won a ring with KC.
Manning is elite. He can go wherever he wants among his suitors. He's not going where the need is already filled. He'll go where the need is glaring.
(KMac) Lame Sauce said 02/01, 06:52 AM
He can go wherever he wants among his suitors.
You were totally right with this statement.... However, you followed it up with this one...
He's not going where the need is already filled. He'll go where the need is glaring
I can't tell you how incorrect that statement is, because frankly, Sarah Palin hasn't invented a word for it yet.
Manning is going wherever Manning wants. And Manning wants to win. Manning isn't going to win in Arizona. They don't even have a good Offensive Line.
The San Francisco 49ers were a game away from the Super Bowl with what should be a career back-up. I'm not going to go into the stats, because we all know Alex Smith's stats are inflated. They really didn't have any other QB options going in, so yeah, Harbaugh stuck with Smith. He ran a safe playbook, nothing too complex. Simple enough to not get messed up.
The 49ers are a good quarterback away from a Super Bowl victory. Manning gives them that victory. It would be the best and most complete team he's ever played on too.
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