- 02/06/2012, 10:05AM ET
HighwayCrossingFrog said 02/06, 10:05 AM
to me, there is one bonehead play by the gmen, I will never forget..
the giants failing to kill the clock at the end, was horrendous..
even coughlin said, that if the pats made a miracle, tom would never forgive himself..
even bradshaw said, he was trying to stop at the one yard line,
(which I think iis BS, he just wanted personal glory)..
eli regretted that TD too..
I know there were some special plays..
but 50 years from now, most likely I will remember the bonehead play..
belichick would never had made that play in a million years..
heck, even 12 yeaf old kids playin NFL Madden, know to kill the clock..
maybe if the pats had a dwayne dweebly at QB, the play would not be too too stupid..
but the pats have brady..
and you simply do not give brady the ball back with a minute to go..
I was watchin the game, and told my friend, the pats should let them score a TD..
my friend said, no way do the gmen not kill the clock..
even my bro a gmen fan, went awfully quiet after giants failed to kill the clock..
I am a pats fan..
and I congratulate new york, they were better..
But come on!
that bonehead play was outrageous.
YankeesFan said 02/06, 10:19 AM
If the Pats had scored and won as a result of the Bradshaw TD, then yes, I'd agree that there was a chance that that play may have been remembered.
But there is zero, literally 0%, chance that will be the remembered play. THE GIANTS WON.
As a result, what will be remembered is Eli proving he is ELIte, the Giants slaying the Pats for the 2nd time in 4 years, and if you're looking for a specific play, the 38 yard pass to Manningham to set up the winning TD.
In 50 years no one will remember a bad play by the team who won. Yes, the Giants shouldn't have scored, but if you don't, there's still no guarantee Tynes makes the FG. And if he does, the Pats, granted with only 15 seconds or so, could win with a FG. So had they gotten a great kick return, they may have been in good shape.
And Belichick probably would've taken time off the clock, but he coached a pretty bad game, especially by his standards. Had he called a TO earlier in the Giants drive, the Pats would've had more time on the clock, and he had already burned a TO on the challenge.
Regardless, there is no way people remember this play seeing as how it ended up meaning nothing. The Giants won.
HighwayCrossingFrog said 02/06, 11:43 AM
I still dont consider eli elite, ha ha..
is he clutch at the 2minute drill? Sure..
but an elite QB is extremely consistent..
and alot of those 7 loses, you can point the finger at eli..
As we saw at the end of the game,
the gmen left too much time on the clock..
Gronkowski came within half a foot of winning the ball game..
It was a bonehead play..
it is in the same category as grady leaving pedro in too long..
if the red sox win that game in extras,
does that mean that all of a sudden gradys bonehead desicion simply disappears? NOPE!
If gronk catches that hail mary,
coughlin and even more so personal_glory_bradshaw have nightmares for the rest of their lives..
Im just europhic, neither bonehead is on my team..
i honestly cant think of a bigger bonehead play off the top of my head..
at least with grady he was too in love with his player to take him out..
its not suppose to happen, but it does..
Bradshaw should be ashamed of himself for jeopardizing the team..
he put himself before the team..
Belichick was a genius for letting them score a TD..
YankeesFan said 02/06, 01:08 PM
Was it really a genius move by BB? Cause last I checked, the Pats lost, and those were the SB winning points. And Belichick had AWFUL clock management in the 2 plays before that.
Be euphoric that Bradshaw and Coughlin aren't on your team, I guess, but at the end of the day, they got the rings.
And you are overstating how big of a "bonehead" play that is. Let's say he takes a knee, and the Giants are down 17-15 with 25 or so seconds to go, ball at the 1 yard line going for the FG.
So many things can go wrong on that play. As we saw with Cundiff two weeks ago, pro bowl kickers are definitely capable of missing chip shots to win or tie the game. And Tynes isn't, or has ever been, a "pro bowl" kicker. So there's definitely a chance the pressure gets to him and he shanks it.
Also, 1 bad snap, which we've seen countless times when the game is on the line, and the game is over.
Or the Pats could've even blocked it. Would he have probably made it? Yes, but there was a lot that could've gone wrong. Take the points, the lead, and the TD.
It's silly to even have this debate. Bradshaw scored a go ahead TD, and the Giants won. That's what it boils down to.
HighwayCrossingFrog said 02/06, 05:46 PM
I am a perfectionist.
if im coughlin, and I am facing one of the best QBs of all time.
you damn well keep bradys butt on the bench.
If you cant get a 3 pointer from the one yard line?
then you ask your kicker how much he got paid by the mafia.
Eli will never be considered elite..
not sure where you are going with that angle..
My second choice?
the two pointer.
it messed everything up for both teams.
and as a result there was never a "flow" to the game.
i wish there was never a thing called a safety.
just punish the team by one or two downs and put the ball on the one yard line.
Your manningham catch?
the one 4 years ago caught by the helmet was 1000 times better.
so I dont like your angle there either.
Just wish the ball hit the back of the gmens secondary,
and gronk wins SB MVP by catching that hail mary.
then we have a REAL hero and a noice story to tell our grand kids.
Instead we have 2 boneheads of "leave it alone Leon" caliber,
That I expect the average 12 year old playing NFL madden to make..
a 2 pointer that disrupted the flow of the game,
lindsey lohan disrupting a young mans life via genital ****!
YankeesFan said 02/06, 07:17 PM
You may not think Eli's elite, but when every major sports website and almost all of the sports world is leading off their recap of the SB like how the AP did saying that's Eli ended the debate and proved he is elite, it's just plain wrong to say "Eli will never be considered elite."
Maybe he won't be to you, but he is to most of the sports world.
And it's funny timing to want to get rid of the safety. Only when a good, logical rule works against the Pats do you want it overturned.
Manningham's catch wasn't as good as Tyree's but that's not really relevant. Again, maybe you didn't like it cause you're a blind homer, but the rest of the sports world and news media are raving about the catch and heralding it as the best play of the SB.
If Gronk makes that catch, that makes for an awful story to tell our grandkids. After all, no one (outside of NE and NFC East fans) roots for cheaters. And as our friends on the Steelers D James Harrison and Ryan Clark nicely pointed out last night, the Pats haven't won a SB since spygate. Are they linked to one another? Maybe, but seeing the team almost everyone wanted to lose win wouldn't have been a "noice story."
- Fantasy baseball Roundtable: Is Cardinals' pitching slowing?
- Fantasy football focus: Impact of Michael Crabtree's injury
- Fantasy baseball Pitching Report: Odorizzi a worthy option
- Fantasy baseball Injury Report: Cueto returns, Price hits the DL
- Fantasy baseball Waiver Wire: Johnson still going strong
- Awful Announcing
- Free Darko
- Pro Football Talk
- The Big Lead
- Joe Posnanski
- The Sporting Blog
- Big League Stew
- Bugs and Cranks
- Every day Should Be Saturday
- Mr. Irrelevant
- With Leather
- The Sports Hernia