- 02/12/2012, 10:55AM ET
NYCBlogger98 said 02/12, 10:55 AM
This is who you think to this point in the NBA season should be on the first, second, and third NBA team.
G: Derrick Rose
G: Kobe Bryant
F: LeBron James
F: Kevin Durant
C: Dwight Howard
G: Chris Paul
G: Deron Williams
F: Blake Griffin
F: Kevin Love
C: Andrew Bynum
G: Russell Westbrook
G: Dwayne Wade
F: Carmelo Anthony
F: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Greg Monroe
I can't put much more, so good luck to whoever takes this.
J-Business said 02/13, 05:52 AM
I don't think the first team can be touched but I'll argue against some of the players from the 2nd and 3rd
Russell Westbrook over Deron Williams for 2nd team
Westbrook is a great player on a team with the best record in the NBA
He's averaging 23pts a game, 6 assts, 5 rebs and he's shooting 46% from the field
Williams is doing well but their team is garbage and I don't think he deserves this spot ahead of Westbrook
Marc Gasol over Greg Monroe
Gasol is putting up close numbers
15pts a game, slightly more rebounds and a few more assists
More importantly he's doing it for a team that's fighting for a playoff spot
Monroe on the other hand is putting decent numbers for a team that is already 13 games under .500
I'll go outside of the box with my last choice
Chris Bosh over Carmelo Anthony
Bosh is averaging
19 pts, 8 rebs,
22 pts, 6 rebs
Both players are playing with other stars, yet Bosh is contributing towards a team with the best record in the East
The Knicks on the other hand are playing better with an undrafted D-league point guard whose helped them to win 5 straight
Anthony is popular but Bosh is playing better.
NYCBlogger98 said 02/13, 05:29 PM
Westbrook vs Williams
I went with Williams here because he is putting up equal to better stats this year as Westbrook while being double teamed every game. Williams does not have anything close to a Durant this year to take pressure of his back and has still been able to get the job done decently well.
Also, Williams has to do everything for the Nets and he still has less Turnovers per game then Westbrook. Yes, Westbrook has better percentages and a better team, but that does not mean he is a better player. Williams has nobody and is still playing great, and still beats out Westbrook in assists, turnovers, and has only two less points with nearly two less shots per game.
Monroe vs Gasol
This is another example of a player that has no help on his team and still puts up the same or better numbers then his opponent. Monroe is a great young player who is putting up great numbers and leads Gasol in PPG, FG%, FT%, and SPG, while Gasol is only leading in RPG, BPG, and APG with assists, rebounds, and turnovers being nearly identical.
Monroe has a worst team and is playing better.
J-Business said 02/14, 12:48 AM
15pts a game
16.8 pts a gme
More importantly, the Memphis Grizzlies have a record of 14-14, whereas Detroit is 8-21
How is Monroe playing better? He's averaging 1.8 points more a game and is playing on a garage team. I could see if he was putting up over 20 pts and 13 rebs, but he's not. He's putting up regular numbers
If both players have fairly even numbers, how is the player on the lesser team better?
The fact is, he's not. A player putting up the same numbers on a team that's winning is much better.
The same with Westbrook and Williams
Westbrook averages more points, Williams more assists
Westbrook is putting up his numbers for the team with the best record in the NBA.
Both with similar numbers. Westbrook more pts, rebs, steals
Williams more assists, 0.1 less turnover
You're basically choosing a guy with similar stats on a poor team, over someone with the same numbers on much, much better teams
Neither guy has better numbers, why choose one on a bad team?
NYCBlogger98 said 02/14, 09:55 PM
Lets look at Gasol and Monroe again, Monroe has the PPG going and is a much more efficient shooter from the field. Gasol is a better defender and their rebounds are nearly identical with MONROE having more rebound per 48 minutes then Gasol by 1.5 rebounds.
Monroe is also doing this on a horrible team with all the pressure mounted on him, and don't act like Gasol's team is so great, they are barely good enough to be in the playoffs with much more talent on the team.
Anthony vs Bosh:
Anthony has had a worst team then Bosh all year and basically has to run the PG, (he hasn't played with Lin yet.) He leads Bosh in assist, points, and is a much better defender on a worst team.
All Bosh has is rebounds per game and less turnovers but Anthony has to do everything for his offense. Bosh also has the best player in the league in LeBron James taking the pressure off him along with Dwayne Wade. Anthony is performing higher and his percentages and turnovers will improve with Lin.
Russell vs Deron
Deron scores only 2 less points with 2 less shots and he also does not have a KD around to take off pressure. Williams also leads in assists, TO's, and is working on a worst team.
J-Business said 02/15, 04:37 AM
Everything you're saying is the opposite of what happens on a basketball team.
A player on a team with other stars should score considerably less
If they have similar numbers, this means that they are playing very well
If the same player played on a lesser team, he'd obviously score more points as the focal point
The Detroit Pistons aren't horrible because they don't have decent players
The same way Gasol helps his teammates to win and puts up numbers, Detroit could be doing the same
They have Rodney Stuckey, Villanueva, Ben Gordon and Tayshaun Prince
Gasol has Mayo, Gay, Conley and Allen
Gasol is apart of a team that plays together and he's a major reason
Carmelo Anthony is one of the main reasons why the Knicks have a poor record. He has good talent on his team but he's not leading them to victories
Deron is the focal point of the offense so shouldn't he score more?
He's averaging a few more assists but the same turnovers and less steals
Westbrook is a very integral part of OKC and is becoming a perennial All Star the way Williams was
Players with similar stats on better teams are of more value and deserve more recognition
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