Throwdowns > Closed

J-Business said 02/13, 05:52 AM
I don't think the first team can be touched but I'll argue against some of the players from the 2nd and 3rd

Russell Westbrook over Deron Williams for 2nd team

Westbrook is a great player on a team with the best record in the NBA
He's averaging 23pts a game, 6 assts, 5 rebs and he's shooting 46% from the field

Williams is doing well but their team is garbage and I don't think he deserves this spot ahead of Westbrook

Marc Gasol over Greg Monroe

Gasol is putting up close numbers
15pts a game, slightly more rebounds and a few more assists

More importantly he's doing it for a team that's fighting for a playoff spot
Monroe on the other hand is putting decent numbers for a team that is already 13 games under .500

I'll go outside of the box with my last choice

Chris Bosh over Carmelo Anthony
Bosh is averaging
19 pts, 8 rebs,

Anthony
22 pts, 6 rebs

Both players are playing with other stars, yet Bosh is contributing towards a team with the best record in the East

The Knicks on the other hand are playing better with an undrafted D-league point guard whose helped them to win 5 straight

Anthony is popular but Bosh is playing better.

J-Business said 02/14, 12:48 AM
Gasol
15pts a game
10 rebs
2.3 blocks

Monroe
16.8 pts a gme
9.9 rebs
0.6 blocks

More importantly, the Memphis Grizzlies have a record of 14-14, whereas Detroit is 8-21

How is Monroe playing better? He's averaging 1.8 points more a game and is playing on a garage team. I could see if he was putting up over 20 pts and 13 rebs, but he's not. He's putting up regular numbers

If both players have fairly even numbers, how is the player on the lesser team better?
The fact is, he's not. A player putting up the same numbers on a team that's winning is much better.

The same with Westbrook and Williams

Westbrook averages more points, Williams more assists
Westbrook is putting up his numbers for the team with the best record in the NBA.

Westbrook
22.9 pts
5.7 assts
4.9 rebs
2.1 stls
4.3 turnovers

Williams
20.9 pts
8.4 assts
3.4 rebs
1.0 stls
4.2 turnovers

Both with similar numbers. Westbrook more pts, rebs, steals
Williams more assists, 0.1 less turnover

You're basically choosing a guy with similar stats on a poor team, over someone with the same numbers on much, much better teams

Neither guy has better numbers, why choose one on a bad team?

J-Business said 02/15, 04:37 AM
Everything you're saying is the opposite of what happens on a basketball team.
A player on a team with other stars should score considerably less
If they have similar numbers, this means that they are playing very well

If the same player played on a lesser team, he'd obviously score more points as the focal point

The Detroit Pistons aren't horrible because they don't have decent players
The same way Gasol helps his teammates to win and puts up numbers, Detroit could be doing the same
They have Rodney Stuckey, Villanueva, Ben Gordon and Tayshaun Prince

Gasol has Mayo, Gay, Conley and Allen

Gasol is apart of a team that plays together and he's a major reason

Carmelo Anthony is one of the main reasons why the Knicks have a poor record. He has good talent on his team but he's not leading them to victories

Deron is the focal point of the offense so shouldn't he score more?

He's averaging a few more assists but the same turnovers and less steals

Westbrook is a very integral part of OKC and is becoming a perennial All Star the way Williams was

Players with similar stats on better teams are of more value and deserve more recognition