- 02/27/2012, 06:00PM ET
killercee said 02/27, 06:00 PM
I know that they said that they caught the man cheating. I know that they said that the tests are accurate. How ever they couldn't prove that it was. I personally don't blame Braun for contesting the MLB's decision to suspend him for 50 games. I also commend him for proving his case. I simply don't understand why people are insisting that he is cheating. They say that he won on a technicality. Well, that technicality was enough to bring about reasonable doubt. When the sample that you take from a player doesn't make it where it belongs when it is supposed to be there; where's your proof that the sample wasn't tampered with? I believe that was Braun's arguement! That would certainly be mine. This guys sample was sitting in someone's refrigerator over the weekend! Really?! Why wasn't sitting in the labratory's facilities fridge? I know they say that FEDEX and UPS doesn't run during the weekend but why wasn't that sample placed in an area that was secured in a limited access facility until they were able to send it off? Alot of things just don't add up. Therefore, I think that his sample was tampered or at least contaminated. They need a more stringent way to handle the samples!
DJRoxalot said 02/27, 07:21 PM
"I know that they said that the tests are accurate. How ever they couldn't prove that it was."
His testosterone was way above the normal limits.
And Braun knew he tested negative in October. But, he wasn't about to say anything because he was in the running for the MVP award.
"I personally don't blame Braun for contesting the MLB's decision to suspend him for 50 games."
Why? Wouldn't an innocent person want to prove he is in fact innocent?
You understand he got off on a technicality, right? He wasn't proven innocent at all. There was no reasonable doubt at all.
[/B] There is no question at all that his urine contained a banned substance.
His sample was tampered with? Who had something to gain by tampering with it? This is some type of a setup?
killercee said 02/28, 11:48 AM
Look! I hear what you are saying about his higher than normal increase of testosterone levels. However, there are other reason that his testosterone levels are higher than normal!
- Testicular Cancer
- Hormone Replacement Therapy to treat low sex drive
- the Body can naturally produce heiger the normal levels in men.
- malfunction in the a man's testes (which produces testosterone) or pituitary gland (which controls it)
My question did they do a full medical examination to see if there were other reasons as to why his levels were higher than normal? Were they waiting on the results of the urine sample? They tested the sample and found testosterone levels were higher than normal but did they look into what could have actually caused it? Did they find steriods in his system? Or did they assume (like most of are) that he was cheating? If it was artificial, the test should find the cause, right?
My point is that when you don't follow procedures you leave things open for questions to be asked about the validity of the tests. There was reasonable doubt! Braun's the 1st to get his suspension overturned? Something to make you say HMMMMMMM!
DJRoxalot said 02/28, 04:10 PM
Post a link supporting he has testicular cancer.
Can't find one? Didn't think so.
He is 28, so I seriously doubt that he has a low sex drive.
They tested the sample and found testosterone levels were higher than normal but did they look into what could have actually caused it?"
No. That's something he would do if he wanted to file an appeal and he actually had any of those things you mentioned.
There was no doubt regarding his guilt. It was about the procedure and handling of the sample that was under question and led to him getting off.
The person in charge of the sample should be fired.
Hey guess what? On a search online, Braun said he has never had ****. Thought that was a little nugget of information you might want to know about your apparent hero.
killercee said 02/28, 04:51 PM
Obviously, there was doubt about his guilt because the ruling was overturned.
Also, he is NOT my hero NOR will he ever BE my hero!
However, my point in bringing up the othere causes of high testosterone count is simply to show proof that there are other ways that you can experience an increase in testosterone production outside of artificial means. These are the one's that I DID find on the internet and there could be more.
All I am saying is that in light of the idea that there are other ways, as well as the fact that there was enough evidence Braun's innocence for the arbitrator to overturn the decision. It is wrong for us to say that he cheated with out a definitive answer on what caused the spike in his testosterone levels. What we have failed to do is put ourselves in Brauns shoes and ask ourselves (after all that has been said and done and the ruling was overturned) would I like someone to call me a cheater especially when my name has been cleared? I know I wouldn't!!!
DJRoxalot said 02/29, 11:38 AM
Baseball isn't my favorite sport. I prefer the NBA and NFL.
But, I remember when the story first broke. He didn't deny it!!!! If you are truly innocent, there would be some type of moral outrage. Wouldn't there? I know I would be morally outraged at the suggestion of being a cheater.
The Hebrew Hammer has brought shame upon himself and this MVP will forever carry the cloud of suspicion. I truly thought he deserved the MVP over Matt Kemp. He had a great season, but now it seems so unfair to Kemp.
The arbitrator didn't overturn it because of a technicality, he overturned it because of a technicality. Kind of like in the OJ Simpson trial.
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