- 03/07/2012, 03:15AM ET
J-Business said 03/07, 03:15 AM
Yes, the Sixers should make a deal
They started the season off strong and they'll most likely make the playoffs and maybe win the division
But that's it.
They'll have a very difficult time in the first round of the playoffs and will have very little chance in the 2nd round against either Miami or Chicago
At this point, the Sixers have some decent young players and a good coach but they need to make a change
My 1st suggestion would be for them to trade Evan Turner
Yes, I know he's young and has shown some potential but he can just as easily confirm his status as a bust
His 7.7 pts, 5.6 rebs and 3.6 assts would be okay if he wasn't a #2 pick
He only recently was given a starting spot over Jodie Meeks and it had nothing to do with his performance
The Sixers should trade him while he still has some value
Next, the Sixers to trade Iguadola. "He does everything good"
Yes he does but they aren't going anywhere with him as their #1 player
He has trade value and can bring back talent
The Sixers are doing good but if they really want to compete, they need to make a move
If you disagree or have a better trade, take the TD
Hyped78 said 03/07, 08:23 AM
Now is not the time for the Sixers to make a trade.
They are leading the Atlantic division.
They are 4th in the Eastern Conference (as per NBA.COM March 7th), home advantage is the playoffs were today.
One of the youngest teams in the league, still developing.
And what you're saying is:
- Trade their best player (Iguodala), who is entering his prime years, recently turned 28
- And a bench player (Turner), 23-year-old
Thing is, who are you getting for Iguodala? Realistically? If you're getting rid of your best player, you need something important in return.
And Turner? What is his current trade value? Looking at his current roduction I would say it is very low.
What is more disturbing is that one of the reasons why the Sixers aren't elite right now is because they shoot too many long 2s.
Part of that is because they lack 3-point threats.
Outside of Vucevic, Iguodala is the best 3-PT shooter they have.
Oh, he is also their current leader in assists and steals.
The team is hitting some bumps, but it is young enough to develop and improve.
Don't break it up just for the sake of it.
J-Business said 03/07, 04:50 PM
If you're happy with the team, okay
As a Sixers fan, I'm not comfortable with the team and their players
Yes they're currently in 4th place but what does that really mean come playoff time?
In the playoffs, every team plays hard
We know they don't have a good chance against
Due to experience, I'd also take Boston and Atlanta
The Knicks even have a higher upside with Melo, Stoudamire and Lin
This idea that "they're a young team" is pointless
In today's NBA, every team with the exception of Lakers, Celtics, Spurs and Mavs are young
The Heat, Bulls and Knicks all have young key players similar to the Sixers
Can the Sixers really compete in the playoffs with Jodie Meeks and Elton Brand starting?
Maybe on a team with superstars but w/ Iguadola, Williams & Holiday as their best players
My first suggestion is to trade Turner. He has value and many teams feel that he can be a productive PG
They can bring back another young player not fitting in and see what happens
If that's not possible, yes I do think they should trade Iguadola.
He's their best player but what does that mean to a 4th place team that's reached their ceiling?
Hyped78 said 03/08, 03:23 AM
So... you're a Sixers fan and you're not comfortable with the team and the players. And you also think the team has reached its ceiling?
Last year the Sixers finished 41-41 (50%), 7th in the East, 3rd in Atlantic div.
This year they are 23-17 (57%), 4th in the East (home advantage 1st round), 1st in Atlantic div.
And you're complaining?
"In the playoffs, every team plays hard"
So do the Sixers, right? So what's your point?
You won't stand a chance against Chicago and Miami, but that's just the way it is.
It's not by trading Turner that you're going to suddenly become a true contender. You won't get much value for him.
I mean, you're not even saying what player, or what type of player you'd like to get in return. It's probably because you haven't even thought about it.
Your plan is to trade him "and see what happens".
And now you're going to suggest a trade scenario for Iguodala, I believe involving Carmelo Anthony.
What on earth makes you believe the Knicks would go with that?
Furthermore, are you aware you'd be losing your top playmaker?
J-Business said 03/08, 04:56 AM
The Sixers are a big market team and they should not just settle for being an also ran, so yes I believe they should seek to make moves that will put them at the top
That's what the premier franchises in the NBA do
They're not happy with just being the 4th best team in their conference
There are a few teams they can offer up for Turner
Turner, Young and Hawes for Monta Ellis
This may seem lopsided but it can work for both sides
Turner has shown potential to be a big PG.
Curry's a more natural short and can play off Turner better than Ellis
Turner (and 1 extra) for Micheal Beasley
Beasley's a more natural scorer and would be much better in this offense
Turner for Derrick Favors
Both players are trying to find their way
Regarding a trade for Iguadola
Yes, I do believe a trade for Carmelo Anthony would work for both teams
Melo in NY simply hasn't worked.
Not last yr in the playoffs and not during the first half of this season
Iguadola would mesh much better with the current NY team
That's a whole other TD
If the Sixers are happy being an also ran okay
If they want to compete for a title, they need to make some moves
Hyped78 said 03/08, 07:16 AM
So, in the first two arguments you say "trade" but don't offer any scenarios, and now in the 3rd you've offered scenarios.
Too bad they don't work.
The first trade you propose, with the Warriors, doesn't work, salary wise.
For it to work you would need to take out either Turner or Hawes.
And, in that case, why would the Warriors even consider such a trade?
Then the trade with Minnesota.
While it should work under NBA rules, why would the Twolves, who already have more victories this year than what they did in the entire last season, go along with this?
Beasley has more value than Turner, that's for sure.
Turner for Favors would work, but Favors has more upside than Turner.
Finally, Iguodala for Carmelo doesn't work due to the difference in salaries.
And you didn't even bother to specify if anyone else would be in the package the 76ers would eventually ship to NY.
So, in the first 2 arguments you talk about supposed virtual trades.
In the last argument you offer specific trades, but they're just not feasible.
That's not the way to go.
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