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  • 03/12/2012, 07:45PM ET

Joe Gibbs: Bigger legacy in NFL or NASCAR?

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Gibbs was a great coach in the NFL, but I'm taking his career as a NASCAR team owner.

Gibbs has been the owner for 3 Cup championships, two by Tony Stewart and one by Bobby Labonte to go with 3 championships in the Busch series. He's been one of very few celebrity owners to be successful in NASCAR. Troy Aikman, Randy Moss have failed, but Gibbs has been one of the most successful owners of the last 20 years.


He's had a knack for finding talent like Bobby Labonte, Denny Hamlin, Tony Stewart and Joey Logano and signing big names to driver for him like Dale Jarrett and Kyle Busch.

He sits 7th on the all time owner's win list with 94 wins, and he didn't start his team until 1992, the teams ahead of him all had major head starts, and his team is still one of the premiere teams in NASCAR.

He made the bold move of switching to Toyota in 2007, and of Toyota's 41 wins in the Sprint Cup Series, Joe Gibbs Racing has all but 4 of them. If not for Joe Gibbs Racing, Toyota in the Sprint Cup Series would be a failure so far.


I will have to go with Joe Gibbs football career over NASCAR.

My biggest reason is his four appearances in the title game, with three Super Bowl titles. THREE!

There are only four coaches in the history of the NFL that have won the Super Bowl at least three times: Knoll, Walsh, Belichick, and GIBBS.

His successful football coaching career has spanned over thirty years, which pales in comparison to the twenty years he has been part of NASCAR.

You talk about the "talent" Gibby has like Denny Hamlin and Joey Logano? I'll take Darrell Green, Art Monk, and John Riggins instead.

I don???t really want to minimize the importance of the racing titles, but NASCAR didn???t even have a playoff system when Gibbs won the first two championships. That???s like the NFL crowning a champion at the end of the regular season.

The NFL and MLB are by far the biggest sports in the United States. On the other hand, NASCAR isn???t even considered a sport by many people still to this say. Racing takes a lot of hard work and energy, but nothing compares to the 24/7 job it takes to be a head coach.

Pro Football Hall of Fame career > Race team owner


Since 1992 when Joe Gibbs started his racing team, only Rick hendrick Racing has won more championships. During his time, he's been the owner of more championship rides than Richard Childress, Jack Roush, Roger Penske, Chip Ganassi, DEI, etc. Pretty impressive.

It's easier to come by talent in the NFL, it's a 53 man team.

NASCAR is an individual sport, the lack of playoffs mean nothing, in fact a lot of people are opposed to the Chase. The driver who accumulated the most points after 36 races was the champion, not unfair at all. It's how they determine the champion in soccer overseas.


If you're saying the prep work involved in being a NASCAR team owner doesn't compare to being an NFL coach, you're very wrong. NFL coaches don't have to worry about finding a sponsor, finances, overseeing the building of advanced pieces of technology. NASCAR owner is a very hands on job. Popularity of the sport has nothing to do with this. The TD is pretty much, did Gibbs leave a bigger mark on NASCAR or on the NFL?

And Gibbs is a lock for the NASCAR HOF.


In NASCAR, you can have multiple drivers, who are racing individually, win titles for your race team. I never really understood the prestige for an owner when it should be given to the driver more so then anything else.

In the NFL, and sports in general, you have ONE team that has a chance to win a championship. You can't win the championship by having the best record in the regular season, as was the case for two of Gibbs' three racing titles.

Lack of playoffs means everything. You can't be serious, since I know you're a baseball fan. Would you be ok with handing the World Series trophy to and Yankees every year for having the most wins? No, and I'm sure Yankee fans wouldn't want this, as a true champion gets tested in the postseason.

The prep work for a football coach, like I said, is literally a 24/7 job. It is probably the most hands-on coaching position in all of sports. Film room, practice, scouting teams, evaluating players, game plans, game management, calling plays throughout the game, time management, etc. Crew chiefs do these in racing.

He put his heart and sole in teaching young men in football. He's still trying with Kyle Busch.

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March 12, 2012  09:01 PM ET
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Denny Hamlin, and Joey Logano, really?

Yes, the Denny Hamlin who already has 19 wins and a long career ahead of him, and Logano is just 21, give him time.

I'm not a fan of Gibbs, but he is one of the best owners in the sport.

March 12, 2012  09:01 PM ET
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When is the last time Gibbs won a Championship?

2005 with Tony Stewart, which is a lot more recent than his last Super Bowl.

March 12, 2012  09:27 PM ET

NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NAS CAR;

Therefore...

NFL success>>>>>>>>>>>>>NASCAR success

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March 12, 2012  09:29 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NAS CAR; Therefore...NFL success>>>>>>>>>>>>>NASCAR success

Well put.

March 12, 2012  09:48 PM ET

Pleasure doing a TD for the first time with you, Outlaw. Rooting for Chipper to make the All Star team this year.

March 12, 2012  09:49 PM ET
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Gibbs is one of the 4 big owners in NASCAR. How many other teams in Football? Bigger winner there if you ask me.

Part of my next argument. Shhhh.

March 12, 2012  09:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NAS CAR; Therefore...NFL success>>>>>>>>>>>>>NASCAR success

X 10

March 13, 2012  08:19 AM ET

I'll get an argument up this afternoon.

March 13, 2012  08:20 AM ET
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NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NAS CAR; Therefore...NFL success>>>>>>>>>>>>>NASCAR success

I disagree. I'd rather watch the most boring race in NASCAR history with my least favorite driver(Jeff Gordon) leading every lap and winning that watch the Super Bowl.

NASCAR>>>>NFL

March 13, 2012  08:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

NFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NAS CAR; Therefore...NFL success>>>>>>>>>>>>>NASCAR success

+1 Million!

March 13, 2012  09:16 AM ET
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I disagree. I'd rather watch the most boring race in NASCAR history with my least favorite driver(Jeff Gordon) leading every lap and winning that watch the Super Bowl.

Got about 100 million people that would disagree with you....

March 13, 2012  09:18 AM ET
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Got about 100 million people that would disagree with you....

And I don't give a rat's **** what 100 million people think, all I care about is my opinion and my preference, and to me the NFL is just a filler between the end of baseball and the start of NASCAR.

March 13, 2012  09:31 AM ET
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I disagree. I'd rather watch the most boring race in NASCAR history with my least favorite driver(Jeff Gordon) leading every lap and winning that watch the Super Bowl.NASCAR>>>>NFL

Are you high?

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March 13, 2012  09:55 AM ET

As a Skins fan, I hate to say that 2 of Gibbs's SBs here were during strike seasons....that takes some of the luster off the Lombardi....don't know much about people that drive in circles for hours on end but I figured the state of the NFL when my own team won the SB should be taken into account....

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