- 03/21/2012, 02:32PM ET
J-Business said 03/21, 02:32 PM
Tebow was traded to the Jets
I do not like this move
Tebow has shown that he can win but only in a set kind of offense
He'll be competing against the starting QB and this will cause immediate issues
The Jets are a circus and Rex Ryan is the ring leader
There were players who were undermining the team last year, so expect a lot more now
In Denver, Tebow had the benefit of being in a conservative Christian market and he was also drafted by the team
Thus he had a good foundation of support from the media and fans
In New York, he won't have either benefit
They'll criticize his every flaw and if he gets more reps than Sanchez, then expect some teammates to make "anonymous" statements to the press about how it's a bad idea
I know Tebow had no say in this trade but it's simply a bad situation for him
DJRoxalot said 03/21, 11:40 PM
When I heard this....I was sort of neutral on this move, but it makes some sense when you think about it.
Players were complaining this season that Mark Sanchez was coddled by the coaching staff and lazy. That he wasn't trying hard to improve.
This brings in (at worst) a capable backup. Say what you want about Tebow's accuracy (I was 1 of his biggest critcis), but his intangibles seem to outweigh his inability to complete more than 50% of his passes.
It's not like they brought in Peyton Manning. If they had managed to bring in Manning, he would be the favorite to be the starter, but they brought in a guy who isn't a typical NFL QB. They brought in a guy who will push Sanchez, but most likely run some plays for him to take advantage of his strengths, running the ball. Especially since the new OC Tony Sparano likes to run The Wildcat.
If Sanchez struggles like he has at times during his career, there may be some pressure to start him. But, he certainly fills a need as a backup QB. Last year, the Jets were a concussion away from having to play the ageless Mark Brunell.
So all in all, I will say it was a good move.
J-Business said 03/22, 06:22 AM
From a media standpoint
You've got the Hollywood playboy QB, who partied with the stars and is regularly in the tabloids
Now enters the down South Christian country boy comes to the big city to take on it's demons
This QB controversy (which it is) will be a story on SI, ESPN and the front page of every NY newspaper
It will bring the publicity
But it's a horrible football decision
What made Tebow work in Denver was that he played the entire game, didn't make many mistakes and kept the team in the game
It doesn't work with him as a backup because teams will know his limits
Brunell might be a better QB because he can actually throw the ball when needed
Both Sanchez and Tebow lack big arms and aren't very accurate so what can either do to push the other?
Sanchez essentially did the same thing as Tebow. Win games with low numbers but timely plays
The Jets just signed Sanchez to an extension with $20 mil guaranteed
They recently signed Drew Stanton as their backup, so I don't know what they are thinking with Tebow
The team that does benefit is Denver
They moved the QB they didn't really believe in and got 2 draft picks
DJRoxalot said 03/22, 09:23 AM
When your teammates are saying that you are coddled and lazy? That is not a good thing. Tebow showed with the Broncos that he can rally the troops around him and practically will his team to a win in the 4th quarter which is when he magically plays his best football. Unlike a certain NBA player who wilts in the 4th quarter and looks to pass the ball.
Tebow showed that he doesn't have the accuracy to be a great QB, but if they work with him on this throwing motion, he could improve.
This is about improving their running game as well. NY slipped to 22nd in rushing yards per game with just 105.8. Tebow helps give them a different look being able to run the ball like a bull in a china shop.
The Jets gave up a 4th and 6 round pick. It's the exception (not the rule) when those draft picks turn into anything worthwhile. Lets not act these picks are always sure things. They aren't.
This was a good move for the Jets to make. It shows Sanchez he needs to work harder.
Drew Stanton was brought in to add some depth. That's all.
J-Business said 03/23, 09:44 AM
Mark Sanchez has a 27-20 record with the Jets
Within that, he has a 2-1 playoff record and took his team to the AFC Championship
Tim Tebow has an 8-6 record and is 1-1 in the playoffs
Sanchez has a 55% completion
Both players have had modest offensive records but reasonable playoff success
The point is, how is Tebow going to push him?
For one, Sanchez has been in this system for 3 years and has fared decent. He hasn't been great but he has lead his team to the playoffs
Tebow will be new to the system and has mechanics issues
It took Tebow over a full season for him to be comfortable and for the coaches to be confident enough to put him in
This isn't Tebow stepping ahead of Quinn or Kyle Orton
Sanchez may not be great but he's had success
The intangibles of Tebow only make sense w/ a complete bust in front of him.
There are a few teams that would have been a good fit for Tebow
But NOT in NY
w/ Rex Ryan
w/ players backbiting
w/ the NY media
This is simply a bad situation, and at some point in the future, I'll make a TD for an easy win attempt saying this very same thing
DJRoxalot said 03/23, 01:01 PM
"The point is, how is Tebow going to push him?"
He gets the team to play harder when he is in the game. The Broncos started 1-4 last season with Kyle Orton and they were a horrible Red Zone team. Tebow changed all that and they started to win games. They managed to to rally from a 1-4 start and win the AFC West by winning 7 of their last 11 games.
"For one, Sanchez has been in this system for 3 years and has fared decent."
Last year, he had 4 games where he threw 2 INT's and 1 where he threw 3 INT's. On the season, he threw 18 INT's total. He also fumbled the ball 6 times, losing 4 of them. Those were the only 4 lost fumbles all season for the Jets.
Tebow is a lot better at taking care of the ball. He threw just 6 INT's in the regular season and lost just 2 fumbles.
8 TO's is a lot better than 22.
And I realize that Tebow didn't play much the first 5 games, but I seriously doubt if he would have had 14 TO's in those 5 games.
Tebow comes with some positive time spent in New York. Sanchez has had off the field distractions with young girls and his players sold him out when they said he is lazy. It's time to bring in some competition.
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